"CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE WINTER SOLDIER" (2014) Review

[seldonp38]

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[pigshitpoet]

is winter soldier supposed to be a reference to the present day conflict in ukraine with russia? remember they did stop the german advance in wwii in the dead of winter. america loves to romanize everything to their culture. i don't think america has had an original idea since its inception with the founding forefathers..
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i don't get a lot out of this propagandist kind of symbology. i wish the industry could come up with something fresh for a change..

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[liliaeth]

Actually the winter soldier name stands for a soldier who serves in hard times of war during winter, and not just when it's easy to do so

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[pigshitpoet]

wow. thanks for that perspective. nothing is ever as simple as it seems. there are threads reaching back in our ancestry to the beginning of time, and a few thousand centuries between.. thomas paine, huh? who knew? i guess one needs to be american to know the soldier's plight.

the strange twist is the subversive use of the word terrorist, in our words to describe the different factions of interests in any conflict. everything has become so polarized, yet it is not that simple, not that clear. i think kerry had no effect on the american ruling elite. they certainly haven't learned a thing since the vietnam atrocities.

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[liliaeth]

I never said you need to be American to understand the soldier's plight. I'm Belgian myself so I'm not likely to see them as the begin all, end all of anything.

What I'm saying is that these trials, along with the image of a cold war character who's put on ice were the two primary motivations for Bucky being called the Winter Soldier.

[seldonp38]

I don't have the foggiest idea of how Marvel came up with the "Winter Soldier" nickname for Bucky. By the way, it has nothing to do with the present situation in the Ukraine, since the Winter Soldier story arc first made its appearance several years ago.

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[pigshitpoet]

maybe, the other way around, maybe the story gave those mindless world goons the idea for yet another spin on war.. i believe in what is called aboriginal dreamtime where all is now, both past present and future coincide in this same moment. i'm weird that way, i create associations that might drive other people nuts. sorry.

[whswhs]

I can't agree with you about the sexual charge between Rogers and Romanoff. In fact one of the things that I really, really liked about the film was that there wasn't such a charge. Certainly, she spends time probing into his sexuality-but in the form of trying to set him up on dates with other women. Her kissing him on the escalator is a ruse to avoid the SHIELD team searching for them, and one that he's uncomfortable with-and clearly it's not what she's looking for in a kiss! But over the course of the film we see them develop a mutual loyalty and trust that they didn't have at the start (or in The Avengers), and that's very well expressed in her parting kiss on his cheek-not at all provocative, and I take it as expressing her acceptance of him as the kind of man he is. Perhaps she even thinks that his attitude toward sex may be part of a set of larger virtues that she's come to respect

[seldonp38]

I don't see a future of romance for Steve and Natasha. It's quite obvious that they are friends. But regardless of whether the Russo brothers had intended this, I believe Evans and Johansson ended up unintentionally projecting some sexual chemistry between them.

[whswhs]

I totally did not see that. If anything, I got an older sister/younger brother dynamic.

[seldonp38]

I thought they had a brother/sister dynamic in "THE AVENGERS". I thought they still had it to some degree in this movie. But I did sense some sexual charge between them, even if it was unintentional.