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Mar 21, 2014 11:18

The chances of Stan and Kyle having an mpreg baby with red hair are pretty low. Though negniahn points out to me that both Stan's Uncle Jimbo and Aunt Flo have red hair, I would argue that Jimbo's hair is more brownish than not. Also, Aunt Flo is an old woman so she's probably dyeing her hair. I have pointed out that Aunt Flo is actually a personification ( Read more... )

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_confunded_ March 21 2014, 16:41:40 UTC
I always imagined their mpreg baby would have messy black hair and green eyes. Obviously if it was a boy he'd get made fun of every day in school for looking like Harry Potter, so when he ends up needing glasses he throws a giant temper tantrum and Kyle's like "maybe we should get him contacts" and Stan's like "Dude he's six years old."

But at the same time, mpreg is unrealistic in itself and we're going to ignore genetics anyway by imagining a world where this is possible. It ends up being okay, imo, to ignore how dominant and recessive genes work... because whatever, it's mpreg, logic has already been abandoned. RED HAIR FOR EVERYBODY!

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sekrit_omg March 21 2014, 22:50:52 UTC
Kyle would almost certainly want to offer his child contacts and a nose job at age 6. "He won't suffer like I suffered!" etc.

Yes, I know. I suppose it comes down to two things for me:

1. I see no reason why genetics wouldn't apply to mpreg? Yes, it's some sciencey/magical AU technology, but if Stan and Kyle are going to have a biobaby then surely the laws of genetics would apply anyhow. I don't know why I feel this way since it makes no sense, but, that's just how I approach it.

2. I just don't think they would have a child with red hair! Perhaps I'm against the fetishizing of red hair in general.

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_confunded_ March 22 2014, 16:29:08 UTC
But their mystical mpreg baby must be a special snowflake!!!!!!

Seriously though, I totally get where you're coming from. Even if the actual act of mpreg is ludicrous, it's best to keep some semblance of realism involved.

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sekrit_omg March 23 2014, 00:41:21 UTC
Well, duh, it would be a special snowflake by virtue of being Stan and Kyle's ass baby. What else is there?

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hey_feygele March 22 2014, 03:37:02 UTC
Iirc, there is more than one gene that determines hair color. The gene for red hair is separate from genes that determine if your hair is blond or dark or whatever. So somebody who has genes for blond hair, but also has genes for red hair, winds up with the typical ginger red hair. But somebody who has genes for brown hair as well as genes for red hair would wind up with auburn hair. And with black hair I don't think you can tell if redness is expressed or not?? but it's been a long time since intro to biology, I don't really remember??

In conclusion: Stan and Kyle's mpreg babies probably still won't have red hair, because looking at Stan's family it doesn't seem like he's likely to pass on any blond hair genes. Even if you count Jimbo's hair, Stan clearly got his dark hair from his dad, so whatever recessive lighthairedness might have been hiding in his dad's family tree wasn't passed on. Auburn/red-brown/whatever you call it is still a possibility though I think??

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sekrit_omg March 23 2014, 00:56:26 UTC
>> there is more than one gene that determines hair color

This is interesting and I actually hadn't heard it before. I am very interested in red hair and have always enjoyed hearing people in the fandom discuss it. I've never taken genealogy so the only thing I can add is that I know for a fact that if Stan doesn't have red hair, and neither of his parents has red hair, and it's unknown whether any of his grandparents have red hair, it's difficult for me to feel comfortable with the number of S/K babies that seemingly have red hair. I mean, this is all just pretend, right, like I don't think the kind of black hair Stan has even exists in reality. I guess anything's possible? People are just very into them having a red-haired baby. I'm curious as to why. I always figured their mpreg child would be, like, brown-haired.

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brimbelle March 24 2014, 19:01:27 UTC
AH I've been talking a little about the probability of Kyle having a redhead baby with someone in the fandom like maybe two weeks ago ! I can't remember who, maybe Kayotics? Anyway, I'm glad you bring up the conversation too ( ... )

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sekrit_omg March 25 2014, 17:23:35 UTC
Yes, you are making sense! Your English is really very good, better than that of some native English-speakers. Anyone theoretically could carry a red-hair gene, right? I am sure it's possible for them to have a red-haired baby! I suppose what I'm most interested in at this point in the conversation is why people want Kyle and Stan to have a redheaded baby?

>> may experience increased anxiety regarding dental care

Ugh, I can relate to that, I have extreme anxiety about my teeth. I floss like four times a night.

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formerdinosaur March 23 2014, 01:07:17 UTC
WELL I can't help but feel that this is a criticism of my decision to give them a red haired baby in the long mpreg fic, and how dare you.

However, I DO typically envision them with a black haired male baby, so that was an exception to my usual rule. On a more personal note, I remember once asking you who in your family passed on your red hair and I believe you said it was nobody in particular, so anything's possible, miss.

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sekrit_omg March 23 2014, 03:00:52 UTC
This entire entry was actually a direct response to some conversation I was having with negniahn! Mostly I wanted to get the "Kyle is everyone's period" comment in there. Clearly I have been paid back for this post by getting the period from hell, so, there you go.

>> anything's possible

I actually had a great grandparent on each side of my family with red hair! So it didn't come from nowhere, exactly, but I do understand that even the unlikeliest genetic scenarios do play out from time to time.

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formerdinosaur March 23 2014, 13:49:18 UTC
Oh I know, I'm just teasing - sorry your period's been so miserable, bleh.

Maybe Stan's grandma had red hair ... semi-related has anyone ever worked out the deal with Jimbo being a half-brother? I wrote up a big 'headcanon' about it once and then was like 'what am I doing'

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_confunded_ March 23 2014, 17:00:06 UTC
I'm pretty sure that Jimbo and Randy have the same mother but Marvin is just Randy's father, making Grandma Marsh from Facebook their mother. Her hair was completely white so it is pretty likely that she had blonde, red, or light brown hair, which makes Jimbo's hair color make sense. Marvin's few remaining hairs are really dark, so that explains Randy and by extension Stan. Jimbo's older (right?), so Grandma Marsh probably had a first husband before Marvin. But then again, Randy and Sharon were apparently at Woodstock so maybe Jimbo isn't much older. The SP timeline is so dumb, though. I refuse to believe Randy and Sharon are that fucking old to have been adults at Woodstock, especially since Randy was in a boy band at 18 and the Ghetto Avenue Boys were CLEARLY from the 80's. I guess the "Woodstock" they went to could have been one of the later Woodstocks, not THE Woodstock. Idk how I got onto this train of thought from talking about Jimbo.

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arctickitties April 30 2014, 11:15:55 UTC
"Kyle is the personification of everyone's period" is, by far, the best sentence ever written by anyone ever. I can't stop laughing.

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sekrit_omg April 30 2014, 17:54:26 UTC
I know, right? Funny because it's true.

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