I'll let Bob speak for me on this one.

Feb 11, 2009 15:29

Snagged this link off a comment on shortpacked and I have to admit, it's bothering me a little bit. Here's the disclaimer.

Imagine if you will. Girls that get just as upset as you do when that boss battle just isn't going well and you you've been hacking away at the bastard for hours! A Girl that can counter your obscure science fiction movie reference with ( Read more... )

rant, videogames, comics, feminism

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vivian_shaw February 11 2009, 16:03:21 UTC
A Girl who apparently uses "girl" as a title, hence the repeated capitalization, and who speaks in sentence fragments. How very.

The whole there-are-no-girl-geeks trope is about as old as the emo-is-cool trope. Yes, there are countless girl gamers. You probably don't even want to know how many female Transfans are out there. It's not exciting that someone who happens to have ovaries likes science fiction or plays WoW or whatever: it's commonplace. Get over it.

*sigh*

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seiberwing February 11 2009, 16:19:27 UTC
Unless I've missed a few, nearly all of the Transformers communities on LJ are female dominated and even the fanboy boards have at least a few females roaming around them.

Five bucks says these Girls are sixteen or under and haven't gone to that many cons--do they think all those Princess Leia and Black Cat cosplayers are getting paid to do it?

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vivian_shaw February 11 2009, 16:41:27 UTC
I expect they read Ctrl+Alt+Del.

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seiberwing February 11 2009, 16:46:10 UTC
Most gaming webcomics seem to pull that one, really. The token Gamer Girl is somehow magical and unique.

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happyyandere February 11 2009, 16:19:36 UTC
I thought I was actually a little offended for a moment there but no, turns out it was just exasperation ( ._.)~ I'm willing to bet that these are the sort of people who use the mic all the time in TF2, feverishly hoping that someone will recognise their voice as female and smother them in attention and adoration.

Hey gaiz, I'm a ttly unique gurl who thinks robots are hot and gun movies are awesome, will you read my blog too? :'3c

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seiberwing February 11 2009, 16:26:26 UTC
They're too...I don't know, small and peppy for me to actually get offended at them. Like little yappy dogs wearing pink sweaters.

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cutiebirdgal February 11 2009, 21:09:56 UTC
Eh, they only exist because the stereotype still exists. If they didn't get any attention for it, they'd quit. There are no girls on the intarwebz, remember? *rolls eyes*

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seiberwing February 11 2009, 21:46:31 UTC
Pretty much. Which means that every time one of these teenage twits finds their way into the intertubes, they think they're the first ones there.

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dunmurderin February 11 2009, 21:16:29 UTC
The whole blurb seems to be defining 'girl geeks' in terms of being safe and comforting for male geeks -- everything's about how these girl geeks like the same things boys do but nothing about them having different opinions about them, just 'female perspective'. They wouldn't want to go around having opinions that the boys wouldn't like!

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seiberwing February 11 2009, 21:35:16 UTC
Nailed it. Even the place where they might have had a chance at a female perspective--the Wonder Woman movie post--the writer backs off and doesn't even touch it because she thinks she'll come off too ranty. It's the sex minus the gender, really.

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chibikaijuu February 13 2009, 00:45:36 UTC
Yes, precisely. I run into this occasionally in real life - guys are expecting that sort of girl geek (likes all the same things they like for all the same reasons) and instead get me, who likes to actually talk about my, female, perspective on thing X, and get this sort of "but but but" when I point out something problematic with thing X. Because clearly if they like something that has icky sexist/racist undertones, that makes them bad people (even though I, too, like thing X, for many reasons, I simply take issue with parts of it), and thus there are no icky issues/they should just be ignored/I don't know what I'm talking about.

I'm not here to reinforce your dominant paradigm, guys. I'm not a geek because I think it'll make boys like me, and I'm not interested in ingratiating myself to the geeky guys, even if it means not getting to play with their toys, if doing so means being unthreatening in my geekiness.

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miryamaris February 14 2009, 08:35:56 UTC
Noting worth to be added to what's been already said. Just stating that there are kids that need attention- and the Internet is some-kind of Heaven for the purpose.

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