...you continue to amaze me with how much you know the true Pansy. Not the one running around screaming "DWACO", not the one who won't let go of his arm, but truly, Pansy Parkinson.
Oh, and I'd like to inform you that there is finally a question/discussion thingy at Dransy :)
I understand what you're saying, but Slytherins stick together. If they had decided to fight, then the entire Slytherin table would have done so, not just one.
I suppose so, though I've always felt there were loners in Slytherin as well *shrug* Maybe it's just me. I understand what you're getting at, though. There's a lot of peer pressure type stuff in that house (in every house, really).
I have to say that I was pissed that Jo chose Pansy to be the "greatest bitch", but I wasnt' surprised, since she let it clear (more than once) that Pansy's not a character that she likes.
I think she didn't say it because she already pissed too much shippers (with Tonks/Lupin, Harry/Ginny and Ron/Hermione being CANON), so she let Draco open to interpretations. One can put a random mary sue and it would be "canon", since we don't know who the hell that woman is. (But of course, we KNOW it's Pansy! :D)
I think it was just another way of showing that there should have been House unity from day one. You just can't expect something that radical to happen after so much reinforcement by their families and also by the way they were looked upon by their teachers and peers.
Slytherin House is very much misunderstood, and that is the real reason for the divide.
Snape had the same situation when he was in Slytherin, and he also had a lot of baggage about that. I think he did a good job with unifying the Slytherins, but not integrating them. I really can't blame him either.
I think this falls to the Headmaster, and he didn't do much to help. It seemed as if he had a bias for Gryffindor, and it's really a shame that even he couldn't have risen above the established House divide.
The older Ravenclaws stayed to fight -- the ones who were in the DA, most likely.
I completely agree with you on the Slytherin issue. Not on Pansy, though. She could have just shut up, move with the crowd, wait for the outcome. Instead she acted as agitator, one who eggs the others on. Which is more or less in character for her, but that isn't an excuse. This was a foul act, and let's hope that she's learned something in later life. Narcissa did.
Pansy saw right away how her opinion wasn't that of the majority. That had to shock her, and maybe that's just what she needed to grow-up a bit. (See future fan fics for more on this.)
Honestly, I'm surprised you feel so negatively about Pansy, when you have so much sympathy for Snape. Pansy has been under the mentorship of Snape for seven years. She was also terrified and only seventeen.
I'm not anti-Pansy at all. I'm not fond as to how JKR wrote her either. But I also call a spade a spade. Snape acted as he had to, Death Eater in disguise and all that. Apparently he couldn't have been a proper mentor. Dumbledore failed on all fronts. She is 17 and an idiot. A loyal idiot, but an idiot still. So was Snape at that age, so were others. Did you see Zacharias Smith bowling over younger kids to get out? Foul, cowardly git, that. It has nothing to do with Pansy per se, foul acts are foul acts.
And of course there's a lot of room for fanfic. ;)
I've been wanting to make a Zach quote analysis for so long now... He's never said anything I wouldn't have said. 'Where's the proof?' What's wrong with that? Nothing. Because you shouldn't just blindly follow others. If someone has a different opinion or dares to ask a question, then they should be ridiculed. Yeah. That's the ticket. Never mind that Cedric was a housemate of his. I bet if it were Oliver Wood and Zach had seen him die, they'd all pester him about it. Did it occur to anyone that maybe Zach was a Hufflepuff Prefect and was moving forward because there was a problem with his charges? Of course not because it's always taken at Harry's face value. Except for Snape.
I still believe Slytherin knew more about what they faced against the DE's than the other students. Their collective decision was based on criteria other than what a Gryffindor thinks is the righteous way to be.
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Oh, and I'd like to inform you that there is finally a question/discussion thingy at Dransy :)
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I'm going to check out the com soon!
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I wouldn't ask for a 360 of the whole house. But the inclusion of at least one or two Slytherin students on the other side would have been nice.
Though I can pretend, right?
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We see time and time again, the unity of Slytherin House.
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I have to say that I was pissed that Jo chose Pansy to be the "greatest bitch", but I wasnt' surprised, since she let it clear (more than once) that Pansy's not a character that she likes.
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I don't know that all Slytherins would have left, but they were certainly all ordered to leave because McGonagall did not trust them.
I agree that the Slytherins have to stick together. They are ostracized and scapgoated from the beginning.
Those dispassionate and thus untrustworthy Ravenclaws come second-to-last, by the way. I always sort Ravenclaw.
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I think it was just another way of showing that there should have been House unity from day one. You just can't expect something that radical to happen after so much reinforcement by their families and also by the way they were looked upon by their teachers and peers.
Slytherin House is very much misunderstood, and that is the real reason for the divide.
Snape had the same situation when he was in Slytherin, and he also had a lot of baggage about that. I think he did a good job with unifying the Slytherins, but not integrating them. I really can't blame him either.
I think this falls to the Headmaster, and he didn't do much to help. It seemed as if he had a bias for Gryffindor, and it's really a shame that even he couldn't have risen above the established House divide.
The older Ravenclaws stayed to fight -- the ones who were in the DA, most likely.
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Honestly, I'm surprised you feel so negatively about Pansy, when you have so much sympathy for Snape. Pansy has been under the mentorship of Snape for seven years. She was also terrified and only seventeen.
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She is 17 and an idiot. A loyal idiot, but an idiot still. So was Snape at that age, so were others.
Did you see Zacharias Smith bowling over younger kids to get out? Foul, cowardly git, that. It has nothing to do with Pansy per se, foul acts are foul acts.
And of course there's a lot of room for fanfic. ;)
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I still believe Slytherin knew more about what they faced against the DE's than the other students. Their collective decision was based on criteria other than what a Gryffindor thinks is the righteous way to be.
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