OMG.

[scrubbo]

Alison is in training, and the guy likes to use pictures of scuba divers as an allegory to software programmers (don't as me, I'm not in the class.) But apparently he has put up several pictures that remind Alison STRONGLY of the ol' Warhammer picture that I have conveniently turned into an icon for y'all

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[georgmi]

As a tester, I have found that--like scuba divers--programmers are highly motivated to perform better if you take away their oxygen and don't give it back until they promise to fix their damn bugs.

[darthparadox]

Man, what's with all the programmer hate from testers? Our piles of bugs are keeping you employed!

Also, a bit of parody verse I wrote on the subject of fixing said damn bugs:
Major bugs have little bugs, which, being fixed, can cause'em.
And little bugs from tiny bugs, and on it goes ad nauseam.
The bigger bugs themselves can be pernicious, tangled creatures;
So suck it up and ship the code and we'll just call them "features".

[georgmi]

To give a semi-serious answer to a facetious response to a facetious statement ( because this is a topic near and dear to my heart :) ), after twenty years in the testing business, I have found a not-uncommon attitude among developers (particularly ones without much experience on an actual development team with program management and test as distinct roles) that testers are a nuisances that need to be avoided and ignored, and barriers to product shipment.

These developers frequently appear to feel that the code has no bugs until the testers "break" it, and it requires a significant level of effort and (sometimes unpleasant) interaction before they understand that testers want the same thing that they do--to ship the product on time with the maximum possible quality.

(To be fair, less-experienced testers have a strong tendency to never want the product to ship at all, because it still has bugs, and it takes a long time for these testers to learn the concept of ROI as it applies to bug triage.)

[scrubbo]

I think new developers are embarrassed at the bugs, which translates into defensiveness and anger.

It takes awhile to get into the 'bugs happen' mindset, and to love having a good QA department. I like knowing our QA team catches documentation bugs/functional bugs/ill defined spec bugs/etc without escalating minor stuff. Working with good QA is awesome. Working with terrible (usually offshored) QA is chore and a half.