Okay, I finally saw the movie. Where were we? I liked but didn't love it. Pretty much how I felt about the books. So that's where I am. Still can't look at Josh Hutcherson without giggling.
I have questions, comment, quemments (TM Nerdist) and I'll start chronologically in the series. We pretty much look at the other tributes as the enemy (when they're not! the gov't is!) aside from Rue and maybe Thresh because of his one act of kindness toward Katniss. But those Careers, however cocky they might be, volunteer so other kids don't have to be subjected. While Katnisss only had an hour to say goodbye and deal with the post-reaping situation, those kids had years to get a grip on the situation. I'd really like to read what you guys think of those Careers or if you know of any comments Collins has made concerning Clove, Glimmer, Marvel and Cato. Does she at all sympathize with them? They're killers but they're also stoic, brave kids. (Collins kind of explains how District 2 would produce Cato and Clove and the mindset in Mockingjay.)
I don't know that I agree that the Careers volunteer so that other kids don't get subjected, which isn't to say I disagree with your overall premise. I think it's more along the lines of, there's real honor in going, since there's a high probability that one of those four will be the winner, since they get trained. It seems to me they get numerous volunteers every reaping (as K mentions when she volunteers) and those people are eager to go since they are hoping they get all those victor spoils
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I saw the movie right before I finished Catching Fire and while I watched the film I was disappointed that the Mockingjay pin was something Katniss found and not from Madge (no Madge?!) and was hoping that at some point Haymitch would recall that Katniss' pin at any point in the first two novels/movie and that never happened just to make the omission even more glaringly in my estimation. I guess Collins didn't think it was that important a detail.
I didn't really feel that much attachment to Madge, so... eh, I wasn't super worried about her getting cut. Many people were deeply offended by omitting her, though. I think because there are so many Gadge shippers.
I'm just going to keep posting questions. I guess ... CATCHING FIRE. Katniss knew she'd be reaped. She said she was going to save her goodbyes until right after in the time usually allotted. Come on Katniss! I know you're emotionally stunted but why wait?
The ending of Mockingjay annoyed me not once, not twice, but three times. First, Collins didn't explain well enough after the explosion that killed Prim. Sure, Katniss is unconscious but still, then again after she kills Coin and is in the training center bedroom for however long. That second one isn't so bad because she would have not privy to hearings perhaps. How hated is she? But the worst omission of explanation is Peeta's return to sanity? Did it happen when she kissed him in the Capitol or what? Explain Peeta's rehabilitation. Please. Collins spends way too much time explaining things at the beginning of all three books - but especially Mockingjay - and some of that stuff is redundant. How many times does Katniss go out in the field and disobey orders and get injured and come back to the District 13 hospital? But then she wraps up things a little quickly in the last few pages.
The bomb that kills Prim is supposed to mirror the one that they do in District 8, right? Minor bomb, then bigger bomb that gets the rescuers. And that D8 bomb influenced Gale, I think.
I think Peeta's not really supposed to be cured in the end? Because he still has flashbacks and stuff, and they're still playing the Real or Not Real game. I think he just gets better at distinguishing fact from planted memory, but still struggles occasionally. Because he knows that shiny memories are fake (or maybe they were the real ones?). But they work on that book, and that helps. I think it's a process.
Katniss does spend most of the book incapacitated. My hope is they rewrite some of it when they get to the movies.
So Peeta's no longer having violent outburts? I had a discussion with an acquaintance last night about how he hoped the book fleshed out the characters and I had to disagree or point out rather that the movie did flesh out some bad parts of the novel.
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We pretty much look at the other tributes as the enemy (when they're not! the gov't is!) aside from Rue and maybe Thresh because of his one act of kindness toward Katniss. But those Careers, however cocky they might be, volunteer so other kids don't have to be subjected. While Katnisss only had an hour to say goodbye and deal with the post-reaping situation, those kids had years to get a grip on the situation. I'd really like to read what you guys think of those Careers or if you know of any comments Collins has made concerning Clove, Glimmer, Marvel and Cato. Does she at all sympathize with them? They're killers but they're also stoic, brave kids. (Collins kind of explains how District 2 would produce Cato and Clove and the mindset in Mockingjay.)
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CATCHING FIRE.
Katniss knew she'd be reaped. She said she was going to save her goodbyes until right after in the time usually allotted. Come on Katniss! I know you're emotionally stunted but why wait?
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Collins spends way too much time explaining things at the beginning of all three books - but especially Mockingjay - and some of that stuff is redundant. How many times does Katniss go out in the field and disobey orders and get injured and come back to the District 13 hospital? But then she wraps up things a little quickly in the last few pages.
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I think Peeta's not really supposed to be cured in the end? Because he still has flashbacks and stuff, and they're still playing the Real or Not Real game. I think he just gets better at distinguishing fact from planted memory, but still struggles occasionally. Because he knows that shiny memories are fake (or maybe they were the real ones?). But they work on that book, and that helps. I think it's a process.
Katniss does spend most of the book incapacitated. My hope is they rewrite some of it when they get to the movies.
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