about Dean, caregiving and perception

May 08, 2012 00:25

Belatedly cross-posting this from tumblr.Okay. This is not a thinky post. I tried, it became emotional, I tried to curb it, it remained emotional, and then I said to hell with it because I'm not writing about it out of an intellectual interest in Dean's role as caregiver but because his story has resonated with me emotionally. I'm not going to ( Read more... )

once is enough, spn, thinky thoughts

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blackcat333_99 May 8 2012, 06:58:06 UTC
They'd never call it "machine," and they'd never expect it of you in those terms, not at all, but they rely on you to that effect: to be constant, to be there, to be what they have always known you to be while they all go through what all they're going through.

...Who needs to worry about caregiver burnout when it's who you are?

...There are no excuses, no walls between the audience and Dean. Dean is just Dean. His relationships with the other characters have been the most complex, the least cheaply sentimental, the hardest worn, the most carefully built, and the most consistently characterized. Because, for better (and others might say for worse), he has always been their Dean. He could stop soldiering up and he could stop being there.

But he won't. 'Cause he didn't. Because that's just not him, is it? I love all the members of Team Free Will. I really do. I really work at looking at all the viewpoints and not playing favorites with characters. They all have their good points and their flaws, right? But this post? This moves ( ... )

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sargraf June 2 2012, 02:53:51 UTC
This is terribly late; I'm sorry! I got caught up in the finale \o/ and then with life. /o\

Dean has been shoved into the position of having to accept Castiel's damage while also having to take responsibility for fixing the damage Castiel caused.I really think this is the cycle that Dean is perpetually kept in by the show, not just by his own personality as I read around fandom sometimes ( ... )

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blackcat333_99 June 2 2012, 04:22:59 UTC
Glad you have had a chance to catch up with the finale -- I admit I am very bolstered with hope about the many possibilities for what may be coming. We saw more than one door get cracked opened, and the unknown potential has me so very curious about what is to come ( ... )

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juppschmitz May 8 2012, 13:37:35 UTC
I think I'm loving you more and more.

This is (another) beautiful analysis. And it underlines why Dean - to me -, plot or no plot, is the single most heartbreaking character in the show. Like you said, Dean is just Dean. And even if there are times when he acts like a dick (like some people say), it's only him. No demon blood, no soullessness, no wall-breaking problems. Always just Dean.

Right from the beginnning this was his selling-point. I remember when I started to get into the show I was kind of pissed off that my "hero" didn't have any special powers or somesuch. Until I saw a post where somebody pointed out that this is exactly what it's about. Dean is just Dean.And this is exactly what makes it so hard to see him suffer. He is constantly taking care of others at his own expense. And like you pointed out, he has no support group. Nobody taking care of him. And yes, it's amazing how the very real symptoms of caregiver burnout apply to him. Makes you wonder if they have psychologists working on the writing team. (Same as they ( ... )

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sargraf June 2 2012, 02:58:34 UTC
I am soooo late! /o\ Apologies!!

Right from the beginnning this was his selling-point.

I really think that this is true, and why i mentioned somewhere else to a friend that the most tragic end to Supernatural wouldn't be for the brothers to die because, hello, been there, done that, gone everywhere and came back. There's no emotional punch to that anymore. BUT, if Dean were ever to become a monster--say in purgatory--and be irreparably so... that would devastate me.

p.s. Thank you. <333

p.p.s. Thank you for linking. I dropped by and read it. :)

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ash48 May 9 2012, 08:15:52 UTC
Thank you. I really enjoyed reading this and I whole heartedly agree with your understanding of Dean. It's many reasons why I love this character and think he's one of the best tv characters around.

I have found myself guilty of thinking I want to see that jovial Dean back, but that's selfish and isn't giving the character the credit that his long and detailed journey has entailed. I can completely see how he is suffering from caregiver burnout - it makes perfect sense. I think Jensen sees that too and is playing Dean with an underlying subtly.

You have covered so many reasons why I love Dean. Not least:

Whatever he has been, whatever he has done or said, has always been him; there are no fingers to point at external causes. There are no excuses, no walls between the audience and Dean. Dean is just Dean.

<33

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sargraf June 2 2012, 03:07:46 UTC
I'm sorry that my reply is late. I totally feel the same in being conflicted that I want jovial Dean back, but it's just not possible given all he's been through, and I would never want them to shortcut his characterization just because it's considered a "dull" arc or some such. I haven't quite forgiven the show for following up "On the Head of a Pin" with "It's a Terrible Life," ugh, although I loved IATL for its own merits. I just hated the timing. They did the same thing with Sam, following up Heart with that Hollywood episode, I think? Why do they do that? ugh, ugh.

Jensen's performance has made such a difference in Dean's evolution as a character and in how invested I feel in his story. <333

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novembersguest May 10 2012, 00:22:30 UTC
Again, I totally agree. I've been saying for a very long time now that I completely get frustrated by the fact that Dean never really gets support, but, instead, gets thrown under the bus or chewed out when he actually acts human. I've longed to see someone on Team Freewill finally "see" Dean and not only appreciate him properly, but also take care of him back whether he accepts it or not. I would love to see the others worry about Dean for more than a line or two and take care of him instead.

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sargraf June 2 2012, 03:11:35 UTC
I really, really long for the show not to drop the ball they've set up in 7x23 but to show Sam's side of the purgatory separation and for him to team up with people they've met along the way, people they've helped and people they've worked with, and try to get Dean back in some concentrated effort. They wanted to do that in S3, but a lot of it off-screen and the writer's strike sort of cut even that short. They have such a perfect opportunity now to change this dynamic up and to allow it to breathe and grow. If they drop the ball this time, it will be... I can't even put into words how disappointed I'd be.

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spankulert May 15 2012, 13:51:40 UTC
hah noticed your link back to lj just as I'd sent you my response in your Ask Box on tumblr. Again, just letting you know this is wonderfully written, and thanks for sharing ♥

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sargraf June 2 2012, 03:16:01 UTC
Oh, was it you who left me the nice message? Thank you so much! Some of the messages I've received have made me cry; they're so sweet. <3333

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