Today is a good day to overthink things.

Oct 08, 2007 20:21

We've been watching ST:TNG episodes lately, and, since we broke through the first season and it started getting good, we've been inhaling a lot of them (it's been a while since I've seen some of these, especially in order). We just finished with the two first Locutus episodes, and they made me wonder a bit about a couple of things ( Read more... )

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jwgh October 9 2007, 00:43:04 UTC
When I first saw the episodes I made some kind of connection between 'Locutus' and 'Jean Luc' -- I assume 'Luc' is the French version of the Biblical name 'Luke' though and doesn't necessarily have anything to do with talking. (But I don't know a lot about what I'm speaking of.)

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sanspoof October 9 2007, 01:27:35 UTC
Man, don't get me wrong, I listen to his cover of 'Rocketman' on purpose. I love him, but I also think he's a bad writer. I think this because I read three of his 'Tek' universe books.

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sanspoof October 9 2007, 01:58:29 UTC
I saw the, um, TV movie? I had it on tape back in high school. There was a Warren Zevon song (not one of his best) over the end credits.
It's still my strongest referent for dermally-applied future-drugs.

I need a better term than 'irony' for stuff like this. I love it, but I love it in a way that means it can also be really bad.

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jwgh October 9 2007, 02:55:53 UTC
I think in some episode or other it is revealed that the Ferengi never invented slavery. Take that, smug human jerkstoves!

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sanspoof October 9 2007, 03:14:59 UTC
Ha ha, it's so true. Picard's all, 'I don't trust you Ferengi' whenever he has a chance.
Unfortunately, Ferengi are all liars who smell bad.

(NO! Says the man in engineering.
NO! Says the head of security.)

^^ This is a Bioshock joke. Please ignore.

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bismuthobsidian October 9 2007, 14:53:27 UTC
Well, Latin is a root language, but Vox is stupid even then. It is bizarre how every race ends up being obsessed with humans. They are always hinting that humanity will evolve into some uber-species like the Q but with morals. Egocentrism is all over ST.

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sanspoof October 9 2007, 15:19:54 UTC
What I was getting at was that, since humans & Romulans didn't have contact until after the time of Latin, what this must imply is that they were either both given it by the progenitors (can't remember their name, if they ever had one) or given a common root for it instead. This is way obnoxious.

Freaking humans as Best Race Ever! How lame. It was worse in Original Trek though, what with the 'emotions are what make us special' every third episode.

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mmcirvin October 10 2007, 03:47:36 UTC
That was a tension that showed up all the time--all this "infinite diversity in infinite combinations" stuff alternating with godlike aliens pontificating about the specialness of the human species, even though we also see that there are aliens who are practically identical to humans all over the place.

Don't mind me, says Mr. Spock, just pretend I'm not standing right here on the bridge...

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mmcirvin October 10 2007, 03:43:52 UTC
The development of the Borg over the course of the various Star Trek series (and one of the movies) never made much sense. They eventually decided they needed Borg characters with somewhat individual personalities (aside from semi-reformed Borg like Seven of Nine), so those Borg Queens showed up. Why do the Borg need Queens? The only answers ever given were kind of vague.

The Borg as introduced in their very first appearance were pretty scary, though they would also have been hard to write for long--they were basically an unbeatable menace.

As for the Romulans, I always got a weird sense from the original series that they were vaguely imagined as having parallel-Earth-Roman-Empire aspects. In Old Star Trek's galaxy, there were parallel Earths and funhouse-distorted parallel Earths lying around all over the place, so that scenes there could be filmed easily with existing sets and costumes. For these Vulcan-related aliens to have inexplicable cultural and linguistic similarities to Earth's Roman Empire would not have been too far ( ... )

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