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capriuni March 30 2006, 06:02:43 UTC
Yay for toe-touching!

Now that the gender is confirmed, are you going to start thinking of names? Or are you going to wait until you know her personality a little bit better?

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Turn, turn, turn bex77 March 30 2006, 13:22:58 UTC
Great news on the tests! You seem to have a very good attitude about it all.

Two data points for you on breech babies - we had two women at church deliver babies last week, both second children about 3 years after the first. Both were breech. Both of them went to the hospital about a week beforehand and they "turned" the babies. The first woman had a vaginal delivery, the second had a C-section after 27 hours of labor. I believe both were done at Mt. Auburn Hospital.

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iayork March 30 2006, 13:46:16 UTC
an echogenic focus, in the baby's heart

William had the same thing, an echogenic focus on the heart, so I did a fair bit of reading in the medical literature on this at the time. What I found was -- not that the correlation with echogenic foci and Down Syndrome is very low -- but that there is no correlation at all. A couple of early small-scale studies had found a very weak statistical correlation, but larger studies specifically designed to test this (as opposed to studies that looked for any and all correlations) did not find any link ( ... )

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mmcirvin April 1 2006, 01:15:33 UTC
We're going to start birthing classes sometime near the end of April. Should be interesting. We've already got this vast stack of books delivering more and more contradictory information than anyone would ever need.

Sam's not the big worrier because I do enough worrying for three people. It's in my nature. Thanks for the information about the echogenic focus; it's interesting that doctors are doing all this counseling based on obsolete information. I try to keep Bayes' Theorem firmly in mind when I hear about weak evidence of unlikely problems, but it's easy to get irrational.

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iayork April 1 2006, 02:20:24 UTC
it's interesting that doctors are doing all this counseling based on obsolete information

The doctors are kind of hosed on this. If they fail to mention the echogenic focus, and the baby does have Down Syndrome, any malpractice lawyer would make mincemeat of them.

Matt McIrvin ([info]mmcirvin) wrote on April 1st, 2006 at 01:15 am

How did you manage that trick?

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iayork April 1 2006, 04:20:32 UTC
vast stack of books delivering more and more contradictory information

Actually, this turns out to be a Good Thing. You can go ahead and do whatever you were going to do anyway, comfortable in the knowledge that it's supported in at least one book.

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mmcirvin March 31 2006, 04:41:44 UTC
HELP I AM SCARING MYSELF BY LOOKING AT MEDICAL JOURNAL ABSTRACTS

SOMEBODY TELL ME NOT TO DO THIS

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megthelegend March 31 2006, 06:49:31 UTC
Lovely! I'm glad you're not stressing about the skull bones - sounds like you've got exactly the right attitude.

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