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[saintbryan]

“If we are to reach real peace in this world and if we are to carry on a real war against war, we shall have to begin with children; and if they grow up in their natural innocence, we won’t have to struggle; we won’t have to pass fruitless, idle resolutions, but we shall go from love to love and peace to peace until at last all the corners of the

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[iamsquid]

Perhaps I'm just cynical, but based on my observation of children "natural innocence" would not be part of my description.

[saintbryan]

Perhaps I'm just naive, but I think that most of the out-of-balance aggressiveness, manipulativeness, insecurity and whathaveyou that we encounter in children is due to growing in a social environment which suppresses their individual needs. I might not use the same words as gandhi, there, but I think that what he's basically saying there is that if we allow our children to grow up following their true wills, this aeon will come into maturity without much struggle. It'll grow from the ground up.

[iamsquid]

Thelema is excellent at empowering the individual, but it falls apart on a macroscopic level. The idea that a Thelemic society would be a land of milk and honey is dubious.

Yes, I imagine I would be happier in a world in which people were more prone to respecting and enocuraging others in the pursuit of their true Wills, but I strongly doubt it will bring peace, cure disease, feed the hungry, etc.

[saintbryan]

I disagree that Thelema falls apart on a macroscopic level. Just for clarity, I'm referring to the greater 93 current, not just to the particular manifestation of the current which we call "Thelema". A lot of Thelemites approach Thelema in a fashion that tends to emphasize the microcosm over the macrocosm, but I think that the 93 current itself, by it's nature works equally on the micro and macro scales.

But I do agree that this Aeon will not cure all diseases, or end the pain that is necessarily part of the experience of life. I think a world of the Child would have about as much peace and pain as, say, a rainforest. Things end, die, are born, consume each other, hunger, love, fear, and so on. But I think that insofar as a system (be it a person, a society, a biosphere, or a solar system) is following its true will, there is necessarily an elimination of all unnecessary restrictions. Liberation.

Not that I would know what a liberated humanity would look like- I'm not sure its ever happened before.