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Oct 02, 2005 22:21

It's a bit amazing how whenever some scientists publish some study that provides empirical data demonstrating racism, so many educated people will go to such lengths to deny it, trying to enumerate every single potential half-assed loophole that they can imagine to evade the conclusion, with very little concern as to whether the loopholes even ( Read more... )

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??? keith418 October 3 2005, 16:26:38 UTC
Don't liberals act the same way when scientific research contradicts their beliefs?

"The racist is annoyed because he secretly suspects that the races are equal. The anti-racist is annoyed because he secretly suspects that they are not."

- Davila

Is he right?

“People often react most defensively when challenged not on their firmly held beliefs but on beliefs they wish were true but suspect at some level to be false...”

- Christopher F. Chabris

Is he right?

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sacundim October 3 2005, 23:59:13 UTC
The interesting part of that study--for me--is that black immigrants that come from predominately white areas fair better than black immigrants that come from predominately black areas.

I recommend you reread the story, because the first sentence actually says the converse of what you just reported it as saying.

I actually took issue with that conclusion. Perhaps the summary is bad, but nowhere in that article does it even suggest that they even compared, say, how white immigrants faired against how black immigrants faired.

And once you get the actual claim straight, you'll see it's not a relevant comparison.

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ergh. i'm not surprised jimotron October 6 2005, 04:27:06 UTC
White folks work very, very hard to deny that they're consenting actors in systemic problems.

In the last several weeks we've had a number of [reported] race related attacks here at MSU. After hearing very few to no details on the attacks, I've heard some white folks rush to the conclusion that "just because the attacker's started with a verbal assault of racial slurs [directed to complete strangers, btw] doesn't mean the corresponding unprovoked and violent physical attacks had anything to do with race."

And this was the identical circumstance in two separate, recent attacks.

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