Thoughts on last night - spoiler, spoiler, spoiler

[saberivojo]

Thoughts on last night. First - I've read no other reviews purposefully.  I wanted to throw my two cents in before I was influenced by anyone else.  And since I'm such a SPN ho, I figured anyone could convince me of anything.

Comments

[debbiel66]

My feeling is it would have been better if Dean had Cas wipe HIS memories as well. That way they couldn't be harmed as easily because they would like anyone else.

That actually would be tragic. Especially if Sam and Bobby were the only ones left to remember that Dean once had a normal life.

I think this came down to convenience... the writers didn't want Dean involved with Lisa and Ben ever again... so they took them out of the picture without killing them. And I've got to say I am glad they didn't kill them, even though I thought they could have handled it better than what they did.

[saberivojo]

I think this came down to convenience... the writers didn't want Dean involved with Lisa and Ben ever again... so they took them out of the picture without killing them.I agree with this. And there is a part of me that understands. There is no way that Season 7 will be the Sam, Dean and Ben show. I also know that a lot of folks never liked Lisa but Ben I just don't think that this mind erasing thing makes any sense. Dean's reasons for it seem sound initially - watching the kid he loves as a son make his first kill of something evil? Knowing Ben knows his mom is dying? Ben is on the precipice of becoming a hunter...everyone has a story about why/how they became a part of the life - this is Bens. How horrible is that? Plus, there is no way that Dean doesn't see the parallels in his life at that moment. He has said from the beginning that he doesn't want Ben involved in hunting and yet here he is carrying a shot gun, shooting bad guys and watching as his mother is stabbed. Dean is issuing orders (necessary orders true but...),

[saberivojo]

I know! The season has been off, but I've been following faithfully. I will continue to follow too. Still there were so many odd things about these two eps. The whole Dean, Lisa, Ben thing? The Cas thing? Hell, even the Bobby and his old girlfriend/monster thing. It was as if the writers looked at the whole season and said - hmmmm lets see how we can drag the strange stuff we've been throwing out there all year together and call it an ending. It's like this has been a WIP without and outline and while I may write that way *snerk* I don't think that real writers should be able to do it!

As much as I like to think that Season 7 will be "fixed" I don't think it will.

Still, we have fanfic and that's my salvation.

[saberivojo]

Dean is known for his impulsive decisions, and his deep self-loathing, the kid thinks that he is the rotten one, that spoils everything, so, I believe, that when he asked Cas what he asked, it was just an impulsive decision, not something he thought out

Yupper, that's well said. Dean would feel this way and would gladly take the hit of not being with Ben and Lisa if he felt it would save them. I do think that if Dean thought it through he would realize that erasing Ben and Lisa's memories might seem like a good fix, it only gives them the fake perception that they are safe. It actually endangers them more because now, they don't even have any idea how to save themselves.

It would have been nice for the Show to acknowledge John. For a guy who was only in a few eps, his presence is still palpable in almost every storyline. So even though the didn't say anything about John, it was so obvious that the writers were considering him in Dean's decisions.

I would have liked a little positive John-love.

I too, was thinking, uh, Lisa

[lady_m_319]

I totally agree. I didn't like and don't get the whole scrubbing thing. Safer? I don't think so. I'm hoping Dean was just so overwrought with pain and emotions that he made a rash-very Dean- decision. I'm hoping it's setting up a new story line and not erasing an old. I'm going to consider this another tidbit that the writers sock away for a rainy day. Like the small kid who was god like and disappeared, for good? Or the coin in the fountain that Sam was supposed to get rid of. ??? Or Dean's necklace, did Sam retrieve? Where is it? So many possibilities.

[saberivojo]

I'm hoping it's setting up a new story line and not erasing an old. I'm going to consider this another tidbit that the writers sock away for a rainy day.

I do try to think that way and in fact, usually do. There are countless possibilities.

I hope you are right.

[nrrrdy_grrrl]

"When Lisa was dying, all I could think of was that Ben would be living with Sam and Dean..."

Girl, me too!

[saberivojo]

I know that may not be popular but not only do I want it, it makes the most sense. Dean would not abandon Ben and despite how much Dean wants Ben to have a normal life, it can't happen.

What's wrong with having Ben live with the boys?

*kicks TV*

[nrrrdy_grrrl]

I know! Then they could get married and buy a house near Bobby and Cas could be their au pair so they could still go on hunts and then in the summer, they could all pack up and hit the road. I would TOTALLY watch that show. Yay!