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Note to drujan: You must go read thedeadlyhook's LJ. You will love her perceptive commentary on the Buffyverse, particularly on Buffy. She's also the one who wrote those wonderful reviews at Just Stake Me.
Note to soulmate815: The wonderful Spike & Joyce story I was telling you about is DeNile by indri. (If anyone else out there hasn't read this one yet, go read it! ( Read more... )
Note to drujan: You must go read thedeadlyhook's LJ. You will love her perceptive commentary on the Buffyverse, particularly on Buffy. She's also the one who wrote those wonderful reviews at Just Stake Me.
Note to soulmate815: The wonderful Spike & Joyce story I was telling you about is DeNile by indri. (If anyone else out there hasn't read this one yet, go read it! ( Read more... )
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It means that apparently Joss has been reading way too much poetry by e.e.cummings. :-p
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He fucking states it out loud in Angel, S1, "Expecting."
Cordy: I learned that sex? Is bad.
Angel & Wes: We all knew that.
Joss is a very skillful storyteller with a big squishy creative right brain. But subtle he ain't.
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I just sort of wonder what the rationale is for "a person getting into a relationship shortly before death makes the person's death more poignant." Something about the act of being in a relationship -- what does that signify? What is it supposed to mean?
Death isn't usually a punishment for the relationship; it's not exactly cause/effect (except with B/A). Giles and Jenny getting back together didn't cause Joyce's death; in fact, if she'd gone home with him right away she wouldn't have been there to get killed by Angelus. Tara getting back together with Willow had little to do with her death; that was Warren (except in the most indirect way, in that Tara was at Willow's house and might not have been otherwise). Joyce dating Brian had nothing to do with her death. Spike's death had nothing to do with Buffy's "I love you"; he chose to die in spite of that, not because of it. Same with Cordelia's ascension; her love ( ... )
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I had a plot bunny once, which was really more of a rabbit's foot, small and disconnected, in which Buffy actually caught on to the rules of the Buffyverse - that relationships were always doomed, that nothing good lasts (which, ok, I'm all over impermanence as a philosophical concept, but stuff falls apart fast in the Buffyverse). And having realized what the rules were, she just gave up on trying to build anything, like a relationship. She wasn't despondent or depressed - she just didn't want to play that game anymore.
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Well, yes, but they don't tell happy stories anymore. They don't do *anything* positive unless it's for the express purpose of shattering it shortly after. Like the totally out-of-the-blue Wes/Fred this week. In the past, we had relationships that built organically, like Willow/Oz, or Giles/Jenny. It seemed like they were telling the happy parts of those stories as real stories, and even though they had sad endings, we can still look back fondly on the good parts. Whereas W/F is just an obvious "get ready for tragedy!" thing.
There's a difference between telling a happy story, and then shattering it for dramatic purposes, vs. only putting in something happy for the purpose of shattering it.
relationships were always doomed
Unless you're Riley and Sam. :P
I think the message Joss has sent is that sex is bad, particularly if it's kinky.Well, yes, kinky sex is bad. You should feel ashamed for doing such dirty things. OTOH, vanilla sex ( ... )
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Oh yeah and right now I'm sitting on three hotel rooms for Toronto Trek. You are taken care of.
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