Just stumbling through the yahoo boards, I came across a board entitled Roman Wicca, I must say that it sounds facinating- as I m not really familiar with Wicca, But something very interesting
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Does the community acknowledge that RR and Wicca are two seperate religions? I'm skeptical about the community you described, considering how I came across a supposed Welsh recon site once, but the woman running it was a wiccan priestess, and little in there are about actual Celtic, much less Welsh traditions. I can imagine a Roman style/flavor of Wicca, but I have an inkling it's follow more of a Wiccan formula than Roman. Not that it wouldn't be impossible to modify it, but there are a lot of sites claiming to be recon, but still Wiccan at the core.
(This isn't to say a person can't balance two or more traditions in their everyday life, or course).
The group isn't Recon-I would say that perhaps it is a wiccan group that honours the Roman Gods-Which doesn't bother if they aren't recon-Im just glad that pple are honouring the gods-
I worship Greco-Roman gods in a Wiccan context. I also worship Celtic gods (Welsh/Brythonic) in the same way. The ritual style works for me; my relationship to the Gods is my own.
Using the same ritual context, I've contacted Gods of Norse, Egpytian, Japanese, and Amerind origin. The deities don't seem to care.
In speculating about whether the gods would care or not how they're worshiped, it occurs to me that (1) they're probably glad to be worshiped at all in this day and age, (2) that they might not notice if it's done in a way that's totally unfamiliar and foreign to them, and (3) if they're really stubborn and resistant to change (and yes, I think gods could be that way), they might take offense if worship is done in a way that seems "wrong" to them for one reason or another.
I think to *some* extent, it's best to worship gods in a way that they're used to -- to the extent that's possible. Especially when you're just getting started. Once you've established that client-patron bond with them, it's probably much easier to make adjustments.
And a nice piacular sacrifice never hurts. Just in case.
Dionysus/Bacchus is going to want wine, or at the very least, grapes.
We had an invocation of Pan/Faunus for a Lupercalia (well, it was a Wiccan version) in Minnesota, and he told us in no uncertain terms that it was too fucking cold on February 15th in Minneapolis, and to please pick a later date to wake him up. This year I chose March 31st, which was much more to his liking.
Blodeuwedd (Welsh flower/owl goddess) or Flora want real flowers on the altar. Hestia wants handmade bread or something handmade.
They are usually polite the first time you forget, but get rather insistent after that. Down right pissy even.
It could mean a lot of different things. My advice (and you'll get lots) take it with a grain of salt, but check it out if you are interested. There's some interesting things we can learn from modern pagan practise.
I have always been skeptical of Wicca and Wiccans ,,, but as you say, if they don't claim to be following historical patterns, then someone's modern "re-imagining" of a religion can be internally valid.
One thing though ... the centerpiece of popular Wicca seems to be reducing deities to energy forms found in the pysche and/or nature, which can be used in so called magick. How this fits into Roman domestic worship with its propitiation of ill defined domestic spirits is a question I would like to ask of that group. Do they even mention the Lares?
My trad of Wicca sees deities as independent, separate entities. We don't roll them into aspects of The God and The Goddess or the human psyche. I personally have dealt with Roman deities only (post-greco contact), no lares.
Ask another Wiccan, you'll get a different answer. Maybe even two.
To my knowledge, I haven't read through this groups files or past messages yet-However i think its a good question how Roman Wiccans address the Lares etc
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(This isn't to say a person can't balance two or more traditions in their everyday life, or course).
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Using the same ritual context, I've contacted Gods of Norse, Egpytian, Japanese, and Amerind origin. The deities don't seem to care.
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I have been looking at variously different paths to flesh out my practice into a modern path-
I don't get the vibe of the gods disliking any path that honours them.
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I think to *some* extent, it's best to worship gods in a way that they're used to -- to the extent that's possible. Especially when you're just getting started. Once you've established that client-patron bond with them, it's probably much easier to make adjustments.
And a nice piacular sacrifice never hurts. Just in case.
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Dionysus/Bacchus is going to want wine, or at the very least, grapes.
We had an invocation of Pan/Faunus for a Lupercalia (well, it was a Wiccan version) in Minnesota, and he told us in no uncertain terms that it was too fucking cold on February 15th in Minneapolis, and to please pick a later date to wake him up. This year I chose March 31st, which was much more to his liking.
Blodeuwedd (Welsh flower/owl goddess) or Flora want real flowers on the altar. Hestia wants handmade bread or something handmade.
They are usually polite the first time you forget, but get rather insistent after that. Down right pissy even.
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One thing though ... the centerpiece of popular Wicca seems to be reducing deities to energy forms found in the pysche and/or nature, which can be used in so called magick. How this fits into Roman domestic worship with its propitiation of ill defined domestic spirits is a question I would like to ask of that group. Do they even mention the Lares?
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Ask another Wiccan, you'll get a different answer. Maybe even two.
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