(Untitled)

[roga]

This is so absurd that I actually laughed when I saw this reported: six months ago one of the IDF Commander's security officers attempted to rape a girl on the night of his bachelor party. Attempted only because eventually bystanders heard her screams and ran to the riverbank where he was holding her down and pulled him off of her; he attempted to

Comments

[a2zmom]

I hope that disgusting excuse for a human goes to prison for the next 40 years.

[roga]

I will be happy to see that happen. Christ.

[tieleen]

Okay, somebody has very, very bad lawyers. But hey, in this case I don't really have a problem with that.

I went looking through Ynet hoping to find out what on earth fake drinks even mean, but they just keep repeating 'fake alchohol' like it's obvious. Is this me once again not knowing what's going on in the world, or do they not know either and are embarassed to admit it?

I don't even know what to do with the fact that they're admitting he did it but still quibbling about whether his DNA that was found is sperm or not. I also don't know what to do with the fact that his fiancee is apparently STILL standing by him, which is almost as depressing as all the rest of it.

On the other hand, in news of things that are depressing but at least beautiful with it, those screencaps are gorgeous. (Join us for the chorus: 'I really need to start watching this show...')

[roga]

I went looking through Ynet hoping to find out what on earth fake drinks even mean, but they just keep repeating 'fake alchohol' like it's obvious

LOLOL, I was wondering that too. I have no idea! Stronger drinks? Does that make any sense?

I don't feel like we have the right to judge his fiancee; I can't imagine what she's going through. It's depressing as hell, from the outside, but I have no idea what's going on there and don't feel like I have a right to have an opinion about it.

And yes! You need to start watching that show! For reals, dude.

[tieleen]

See, stronger drinks would make sense, but the phrase they're using is 'fake alchohol', so... who even knows.

You're right about the fiancee, really, though it doesn't stop me from being depressed about it. *g* But I guess it's more as a symbol of that phenomenon, and less as something that reflects on her personally.

[seekingferret]

If it makes you feel better, somebody was telling me a story yesterday about the bus to Mt. Meron he took ten years ago on Lag B'Omer and the story involved being stuck in the bus on the top of the mountain for 6 hours after the shindig was over, because there's only one lane up the mountain and one lane down the mountain and naturally this led to the Worst Traffic Jam in History (tm).

[roga]

LOL, that is a little comforting. Mostly it just pisses me off though, on principle, even if I don't actually use those bus lines. And I'd like to think that if I were to ever go on a bus like that I'd just sit wherever I wanted to on principle, but I know that the moment someone made a comment I'd freak out and go sit at the back, just like when I was in Meah Shearim and a dude yelled at me for standing in this alley I immediately backed off without even pausing to think about it. Mehadrin buses, ugh, they really need to go. Especially when we're talking public transportation and not private buses.

[seekingferret]

Yeah, ugh. In America even the craziest of Charedim take the subway, and if they're uncomfortable sitting next to a woman (gasp!) they don't show it. They just tune everybody around them out like the rest of us, because seriously... all of this crap is so far away from the Torah it's ridiculous.

[npkedit]

I always find the concept of a "kosher" bus hysterical (and sort of sad at the same time)because, as someone who is frum, there is absolutely no halachic reason for having a mechitza on a bus unless it's going to get stuck for hours to the point where the men have to daven. And how often does that happen? Not very often--it's an issue of convenience, not necessity. We had the same thing go on in NY (a woman sued because the bus was getting public funding and she won) and my thought was--either get together and hire your own private bus so you can daven as you will, or get up and go to minyan before getting on the bus.

Same thing when a guy insists he won't sit next to a woman (or vice versa) on an airplane--that's not tznius, it's ignorant shtus.

[roga]

I wasn't even aware of the specific halachic reasoning behind it, so thanks for clarifying, and ugh. I really think we need someone to make a similar kind of lawsuit here. I'd actually be surprised if there hasn't been one already; I should look it up.

[thefourthvine]

Oh, that show sounds and looks so fabulous. And heartbreaking. Please post further updates as the situation warrants!

(Also, my understanding is that if a drink is a fake drink, it shouldn't get you drunk. Furthermore, I have been to many parties where people got drunk to the point of alcohol poisoning - my unfortunate youth, let me show you it - and you know what? They are not raping people when that happens. They are in no condition to do anything of the kind. Your excuse completely mystifies me, IDF Commander!)

[roga]

It is! And I will. The other storylines this season are cool as well: one is about Hodaya, who decided to stop being religious at the end of last season, and this season follows her adjustment into living in secular culture, a new job, a new boyfriend, and figuring out how to maintain friendships with her religious friends (and family, although there's not much chance of that). And there are Amir and Yifat, who got married at the end of last season and are adjusting to married life, who are trying to have a baby (The Most Important Thing In The World) but encountering fertility issues. In addition, Amir's feels stuck and stale in his school teaching job; Yifat's accepted a good graphic design job that Amir encouraged her to take for her own sake, except now he's starting to resent it, and it's all really fascinating and sad.

And seriously, the not responsible argument, what the fuck. Unless you were drugged with a drug that makes you rape people, intoxication is not an excuse. (I'll clarify that it wasn't the IDF Commander,