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limbomonkey April 27 2013, 13:05:13 UTC
"me: and that might be what undoes you, directly or indirectly."

Right. I'm kind of hoping that Rumple will learn that you can't take prophecy at face value and can't (easily) change it.

As a kid, Bae convinced Rumple to get rid of his powers. Rumple of course went back on his word. The seer said that Henry would lead him to his son, and that Henry would be his undoing. But this could mean that Rumple will finally make good on his promise to Bae, and Henry would have undone Rumple's powers that way.

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rodlox April 27 2013, 14:38:51 UTC
> hoping that Rumple will learn that you can't take prophecy at face value
one would think that 300(+) years would have taught him that. then again, for much of that time, he was the one delivering the prophecies.

when she said it, I associated "undo" with "unmake" ("the One Ring was made in the fires of Mt. Doom, and it must be unmade there.")

it wasn't until I looked over others' episode reviews for Manhattan, that I even started to think of that type of undoing.

either way, its a problem for Henry - as I remember the terms of the Dark One's existance, whomever destroys a Dark One, becomes a Dark One.

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limbomonkey April 27 2013, 23:19:00 UTC
That's the thing. I don't think it has to be a destroy-type undo. "Undoing" is a really loose verb.

How do we know he lived 300+ years? I have heard that before, but I don't remember when we learned that in the series.

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rodlox April 28 2013, 01:56:43 UTC
behavioral change, true. just said what came to me first.

I used to think he was at *least* a thousand years old - to rehearse and do dry runs of the parts of his plan, if nothing else.

...the 300, I heard in comment threads at the fan comms for episodes, interviews, and such. I'm not sure where its from - an interview or what.
sorry.

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