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ter369 October 10 2006, 03:05:06 UTC
Your reviews are a great read, as always, Rivka! Thanks for keeping me up to date on comics I haven't read.

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londonkds October 10 2006, 09:33:57 UTC
Um, that Outsiders bit icked me. I mean, isn't this the Joker, the self-defined Most Degenerate Man in the DC universe who views it as a point of honour to kill practically everyone who he comes across? Who, in what I've read featuring him, is often characterised as an utter moral nihilist who's willing to die if it means that he's provoked a Good Guy into killing him and losing the moral high ground. And he freaks out in an utterly visceral uncontrolled way, beyond his usual "I'm mad, me" schtick, because Lex calls him gay.

I dunno, I get the probably-unintentional subtext here that the writer sees homosexuality as so horrible that even the Worst Man in the World, who is frequently as camp as the proverbial row of tents and is in this snippet, is horrified by anyone thinking that he's actually a homo.

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rivkat October 10 2006, 11:56:33 UTC
God knows I won't defend most of the official DC 'verse against charges of homophobia. However, this one I read as the Joker freaking out not because he's being called gay but because Lex hits him at his most vulnerable point, his desire to occupy Batman's consciousness. One can definitely read that desire as gay, but I can comfortably see it as icky because it's icky and not because it's gay.

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londonkds October 10 2006, 14:21:07 UTC
"He'll never love you, sweetheart! [...] He's never gonna take you to the prom."

Of course, if that's the intended interpretation I'm surprised the Joker didn't just respond with something along the lines of "And when you're not in the room with him Superman never thinks of you, ever".

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rivkat October 10 2006, 15:33:13 UTC
I don't know if the Joker has that much insight into Lex's motivations! Sadly, Superman doesn't appear to end this confrontation. But that is what fanfic is for.

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daylan_rayne October 16 2006, 23:07:00 UTC
Thank you! I just love wonder-woman she's my favorite
female hero ever. I loved the t.v show it was great!

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