(I lost my fingers trying to find your old hands)
So, after the unexpected gap in serial recaps last week, I've returned with the next instalment of the great & mighty Troughton rewatch-athon! This week the recaps are for Tomb of the Cybermen, The Great Space Elevator (Victoria's Companion Chronicle) & The Abominable Snowmen, the last of which might be a bit messy because I was beyond exhausted
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Nope - you had Cutler (AKA the bastard who was mean to One, Ben and Polly) in The Tenth Planet before. And the actor who played Hopper here was actually American, as far as I know.
Random notes: considering all of the Cybermen stories we've seen so far with One, then Two, the question of how the Cybermen know the Doctor is a bit confusing. The first two can be explained, but how the Telosian Cybermen know Two here, is much more confusing. Ow, head.
Well, in this serial it's actually easy, since in terms of Earth's chronology (as opposed to the show's actual chronology) this takes place after The Invasion, The Moonbase and The Wheel in Space. You could argue about how they'd know about him in The Invasion, but we can also assume that the "Planet 14" referenced there was from an unaired adventure - it's the only way to stop the resulting headache, anyway.
How very Two of Two to have just the thing to open Cyber-doors with ( ... )
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Nope - you had Cutler (AKA the bastard who was mean to One, Ben and Polly) in The Tenth Planet before. And the actor who played Hopper here was actually American, as far as I know.
O! O, I can't believe I forgot about him - well, actually I CAN, since I did NOT like him particularly. But I don't even think I noted that in my recap . . . well, it WAS an early one, so . . . ::makes odd apologetic face::
Well, in this serial it's actually easy, since in terms of Earth's chronology (as opposed to the show's actual chronology) this takes place after The Invasion, The Moonbase and The Wheel in Space.
O! The Wheel in Space has Cybermen too; I'd forgotten, since I haven't seen it in so long. So yes, I think I get it now. Um, just about, but I'll get it one day. (maybe a chart!)
You could argue about how they'd know about him in The Invasion, but we can also assume that the "Planet 14" referenced there was from an unaired ( ... )
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I actually cheered when he was killed by the Cyberman. Does that make me a bad person?
though at the risk of incurring ANOTHER headache, couldn't it be possible that when the Cybermen met Two on the moonbase, the information they collected about him (because they must have collected some) was sent to all known Cybermen throughout the galaxy; or at least the ones that had been defrosted?
You know, that is a really good possibility.
it may or may not have given me the opportunity to yell a) FANDOM COLLISION! & b) LOLZ SHERLOCK HOLMES IN SPACE! XD
Heh. I had that same reaction in reverse, as I watched Tomb before discovering his Holmes.
(& OMG ZOE TOTALLY DOES NOT COUNT. :P Remember, I saw her first in The Mind Robber, when she wasn't QUITE as logical & had a bit more emotion.)
My first contact with Zoe was in episode 2 of The Space Pirates, where she's the calm, rational voice explaining to Jamie what's going on. I then skipped to ( ... )
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Nooooo! He was a very mean sort of man! & if he'd listened to One, he might not have ended up DEAD. (imagine if Victoria had met him. Hmmm.)
You know, that is a really good possibility.
O! ::looks a bit delighted:: It would make sense for the Cybermen to be THAT organised & to be able to send information on a man who kicked their shiny metal asses TWICE in TWO different places to the rest of their race. & I think they'd be intelligent enough to figure out that the little old man who blew up Mondas is the same one who fought with them before, even if he had a different face. But I think it's a good possibility that they would be able to do something like that.
Heh. I had that same reaction in reverse, as I watched Tomb before discovering his Holmes.
::giggles:: I'm, um, slightly embarrassed that I had NO idea he was in a Doctor Who serial until I read this quote from him that was in an issue of DWM. I'd heard him as Sherlock Holmes before, but ( ... )
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FUCKER JUST TRIED TO SHOOT TWO! ::Leela!snarl:: At least he's a lousy shot!
But he shot Callum! Nobody shoots Clive Merrison!
Toberman cradling Katfan's body always gets to me. Even though she was a cracy both, it's touching just how much Toberman cared for her - he must have been the only person she was ever kind to, and she must have been the only person he has ever received kindness from.
JAMIE! You followed Two into the tombs! ::hugs him::
You can't keep them apart. *pets them both*
that final shot of the Cybermat is just . . . foreboding, man.
They'll be baaaaaack...
"Look at the size of that thing!" and "sexual sectional air supply" (best goof-up ever!) had to be included. I wonder who thought of putting them there...
& plus, it's very much like something from Two's era & quite thrilling to listen to!
What I love the most about Space Elevator is that, of all the Companion Chronicles I've heard so far, it's the only one who would have worked perfectly as a serial in the TV show, and with the ( ... )
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But he shot Callum! Nobody shoots Clive Merrison!
I KNOW! THEY SHOT SHERLOCK HOLMES, WHAT THE HELL. See, that's when Unexpected!Leela explodes out of the tomb & does some stabby-stabby time then. It was TOTALLY in the original version. ::nods::
Toberman cradling Katfan's body always gets to me. Even though she was a cracy both, it's touching just how much Toberman cared for her - he must have been the only person she was ever kind to, and she must have been the only person he has ever received kindness from.
Yes, that is another thing that could be said of her - she was batshit crazy & quite dangerous in the end, but she did seem to be very kind to Toberman when she was around him. It is a rather touching scene & it can make one think that Kaftan COULD be kind, at least to him.
You can't keep them apart. *pets them both*
Jamie McCrimmon & the Doctor = magnets, y/n?
& dude, Cybermen are like . . . like those things from Poltergeist! THEY'LL EXPLODE OUT OF THINGS WHEN YOU LEAST ( ... )
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NOBODY shoots Sherlock Holmes and gets away with it!
It is a rather touching scene & it can make one think that Kaftan COULD be kind, at least to him.
That moment is a lovely touch - with only those few seconds, it makes the two of them more developed and less one-dimensional than the average villains.
Jamie McCrimmon & the Doctor = magnets, y/n?
One will automatically attract the other, yes.
I'm sorry, but hearing Two say 'sexual air supply', even if he DOES mean 'sectional air supply', will NEVER. EVER. NOT BE FUNNY. EVER.
Pat at his best.
We can give that to One & his crazy faces with Sara & Steven. ;D
*snerk* And I'm now wondering what Two's gang would do with the trampolin. :P
O, how lovely! I could see that, actually, very well, as a matter of fact. & I think it's just as sweet a thought.
Their Sunday tea will never stop being a part of my personal canon. Three and Victoria would definitely have a relationship that would mirror that she had with her own father, I think.
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DAMN STRAIGHT! ::scary face::
That moment is a lovely touch - with only those few seconds, it makes the two of them more developed and less one-dimensional than the average villains.
You're very right. I wish I'd mentioned that in my recap but I was still a bit miffed over her locking Victoria in a box, drugging her, then threatening to shoot her. (but still, Victoria tries to save her life when Kaftan gets attacked by the Cybermat! Which, interestingly enough, I think I would have done too - but that's 'cause I'm scary nice. But anyway, that was also a very honourable thing for Victoria to do.)
One will automatically attract the other, yes.
It's been scientifically proven, as well! & your Sims also demonstrate the principles of the Doctor-Jamie attraction. :P
. . . & I now feel the urge to go & watch that little bit & JUST that little bit . . . brb, putting that bit on. (o, come on, I've resisted the urge to dive headfirst into The Enemy of the World up til now! :P)
*snerk* ( ... )
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Six points:
- I also noticed the Ten-Two-Archaeologist reference. It amused me. :D
- Interesting point about Vicki, Victoria, and Sarah Jane. I hadn't really considered it before, but Victoria and Sarah Jane do look alike. Very odd with the names though -- Victoria would have hated having hers shortened. And Vicki probably would have been just as annoyed given she was so specific explaining that her name was just Vicki.
- Pet cybermats? Sign me up! I think they're adorable!
- Two/Jamie hand-holding. ♥
- 'Rubbish! We can make a party!'. Go Victoria! I loved her so much at this moment ( ... )
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I too got good LOLZ out of Two's better tolerance of archaeologists than his later regeneration. ::pets Two & pokes Ten in the eye::
Interesting point about Vicki, Victoria, and Sarah Jane. I hadn't really considered it before, but Victoria and Sarah Jane do look alike. Very odd with the names though -- Victoria would have hated having hers shortened. And Vicki probably would have been just as annoyed given she was so specific explaining that her name was just Vicki.
O, good, then I wasn't imagining it! & in Pyramids of Mars, she really DOES look like Victoria in that dress.
& also - Vicki didn't have a surname? Or did she & just chose not to reveal it?
::gives you a pret Cybermat of your own:: Aren't they precious? :D
Two/Jamie hand-holding. ♥YES INDEED! Possibly one of their cutest moments that managed to survive. Awww ( ... )
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Like Polly's, Vicki's surname was never given onscreen - but in the books it's "Pallister".
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