THANK YOU. I wanted to punch Mercedes and Rachel throughout most of the episode. What the hell was she doing singing to Kurt's dad? Rachel has never met him - it's creepy and weird that she's singing to him. And yes, I get Mercedes wants to help, but not only did she basically say "you not believing in God makes me rethink our friendship/feel weird", she also basically lectured him. In front of her entire church. That? Is not okay.
I lost my mom in HS, and I felt insulted by the idea that these people all thought they knew how Kurt should be grieving. The most important thing I was told throughout that process was that it was okay to feel however I felt, and the fact that that sentiment never once seemed to be brought up - or if it was, it was immediately shot down - makes me so angry.
THAT WAS SO INCREDIBLY CREEPY. Like, I can't get over it. Who just goes into one of their casual friends' dying father's hospital room and sings a song while TOUCHING HIS HEAD? So invasive and creepy and it really bothers me that she was not called out more for that. And Mercedes, UGH. When I said I wanted her to be included in a storyline, I did not mean that she should lecture her best friend on how he is supposed to be dealing with a situation she can't possibly comprehend. >:(
Exactly. I was lucky enough to not lose my dad, but anytime a close family member or friend is sick or passes away, however you deal with it, however you feel, is okay. I hate that it seemed like Kurt was the bad guy tonight since he doesn't believe in God and I hate that they never made it clear that he wasn't. I feel like that might have been their intentions but they fucked it up, really badly.
I get that Rachel has to have a big solo every episode - it's Glee, it's like Shue being an arrogant ass or Sue saying something witty - but they could have at least attempted to make it more emotional for her. Her boyfriend's sort-of-step-father was maybe dying, they could have played with that and her wanting to help Finn. But instead, it's just BIZARRE and random, and so, so not okay. Was Finn even there in that scene? I really cannot remember now. And yes, Mercedes! I could not BELIEVE when she told Kurt she didn't know how to be around him lately. It is not his job right now to coddle you, it is yours to coddle him. Give the kid a break.
I think maybe that was what they were going for as well, but they got so lost in being both politically correct and ~controversial, that they sort of got lost. I really can't tell you what the central message of this episode was. That religion exists? Yes, thank you, Glee, I was kind of aware of that one already.
Seriously! Finn was there, with his mom (the only 2 people who had reason to be there, besides Kurt). It was so bizarre, I can't believe that actually happened.
Glee totally sucks at having plot arcs that extend beyond one episode and they even suck at getting one to go through just one episode. I was really caught off guard by how it ended, as well. I was like "Wait, really? A Joan Osbourn song with 'God' in the title and that's it? THAT'S HOW IT ENDS?" It should have ended with Kurt's dad squeezing his hand, that would have been touching enough on its own.
I have to say, reading reviews for this one makes me REALLY glad I don't watch Glee. It kind of makes me want to punch people when I am forced to watch any of it... but I feel like this one might have made me murderous. :\
I completely understand, I hate when things are forced on me as well. I only started watching when a friend of mine gave me the first part of the season on my external hard drive and I watched it all over a weekend. Now I'm mostly just watching out of curiosity and for the few moments that it is actually pretty good.
it was still not okay for the religious Glee kids to try and convert Kurt all damn episode
DDDDDDD: NOT OKAY. I don't watch Glee, but wow, that makes me angry. Like unable to form words angry. D:< Never mind the fact that I think the Pester Method is a horrible way to try and get someone to join your religion.
I WAS SO ANGRY. Kurt made it clear at the beginning of the episode that he was an atheist (before his dad got fell into a coma) and he didn't care if anyone else was religious, it just didn't make sense to him. And then after his dad gets sick, all anyone can do is pray for him (even though he tells them not to) and his best friend, Mercedes, tells him that she feels like she can't talk to him anymore knowing that he's atheist and then proceeds to drag him to her church, call him out in front of everyone and sing "Bridge Over Troubled Water" to him. AND THIS IS SEEN AS AN OKAY THING TO DO.
And don't even get me started on Rachel, someone who Kurt's not even close with, singing "Papa Can you Hear Me?" to his comatose father and touching his head while she does it.
FFS, I have known people like Mercedes. Heck, I've had friends like that who got all awkward on me when they found out I wasn't religious. IT'S NOT OKAY. It makes you feel like shit and obviously Kurt didn't need to be feeling like shit right then! More important things on his plate!
Exactly! It's so uncomfortable on it's own, let alone when your friend tries to force it on you when you're going through an impossibly tough situation.
After tonight's episode I was thinking I was done with Glee. I could finally stop watching and take it off my DVR list. But I do want to see what happens with the new guy next week.
Yeaaaaah, this episode bother me on so many levels. I thought Lea Michele has a beautiful voice that fits that song SO WELL and it would have worked really great if they had kept her in the park and overlayed scenes of Kurt with his dad in the hospital, because there's so much more to that song than just the religious aspect. Also, I've just given up on Rachel at this point. It's not even about disliking the character, it's about being annoyed with the writers. Ugh
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if they had kept Rachel in the park, that would have been great. Lea Michele has the perfect voice to sing Barbara and it was beautiful, but unnecessary creepiness totally ruined it for me.
ME TOO. Sue is a great character but it bothers me that she's either this cartoon villain with insane one-liners or the voice of reason among all the sappy, dumbass Will Schuster nonsense. On one hand, I love that she's a dimensional character, but on the other, it's hard to get your viewers to accept such polarizing viewpoints from the same character, Glee.
This is true. Maybe if Frankenteen's voice hadn't sounded so crappy, I wouldn't have been as annoyed by it. The "I Want to Hold Your Hand" number was brilliant, though.
YES! I would have found Quinn's relationship with religion must more interesting than Rachel's. Like, it's awesome that Rachel's really proud of her Judaism but where did that character trait come from? At least with Quinn, we have an established personality trait of her and her religion.
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I lost my mom in HS, and I felt insulted by the idea that these people all thought they knew how Kurt should be grieving. The most important thing I was told throughout that process was that it was okay to feel however I felt, and the fact that that sentiment never once seemed to be brought up - or if it was, it was immediately shot down - makes me so angry.
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Exactly. I was lucky enough to not lose my dad, but anytime a close family member or friend is sick or passes away, however you deal with it, however you feel, is okay. I hate that it seemed like Kurt was the bad guy tonight since he doesn't believe in God and I hate that they never made it clear that he wasn't. I feel like that might have been their intentions but they fucked it up, really badly.
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I think maybe that was what they were going for as well, but they got so lost in being both politically correct and ~controversial, that they sort of got lost. I really can't tell you what the central message of this episode was. That religion exists? Yes, thank you, Glee, I was kind of aware of that one already.
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Glee totally sucks at having plot arcs that extend beyond one episode and they even suck at getting one to go through just one episode. I was really caught off guard by how it ended, as well. I was like "Wait, really? A Joan Osbourn song with 'God' in the title and that's it? THAT'S HOW IT ENDS?" It should have ended with Kurt's dad squeezing his hand, that would have been touching enough on its own.
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It kind of makes me want to punch people when I am forced to watch any of it... but I feel like this one might have made me murderous.
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DDDDDDD: NOT OKAY. I don't watch Glee, but wow, that makes me angry. Like unable to form words angry. D:< Never mind the fact that I think the Pester Method is a horrible way to try and get someone to join your religion.
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And don't even get me started on Rachel, someone who Kurt's not even close with, singing "Papa Can you Hear Me?" to his comatose father and touching his head while she does it.
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ME TOO. Sue is a great character but it bothers me that she's either this cartoon villain with insane one-liners or the voice of reason among all the sappy, dumbass Will Schuster nonsense. On one hand, I love that she's a dimensional character, but on the other, it's hard to get your viewers to accept such polarizing viewpoints from the same character, Glee.
This is true. Maybe if Frankenteen's voice hadn't sounded so crappy, I wouldn't have been as annoyed by it. The "I Want to Hold Your Hand" number was brilliant, though.
YES! I would have found Quinn's relationship with religion must more interesting than Rachel's. Like, it's awesome that Rachel's really proud of her Judaism but where did that character trait come from? At least with Quinn, we have an established personality trait of her and her religion.
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