My Mutation Causes My 'Knowing When To Shut Up' Gene To Malfunction.

Jun 30, 2011 20:57

Something that particularly struck me in my rewatching of X-Men: First Class was one of the conversations between Charles and Raven. Charles says, 'Don't make me read your mind'; Raven says, 'You promised me you would never do that ( Read more... )

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captlebubbles July 1 2011, 01:21:48 UTC
OH OH. There's an arc in Animated (from the nineties) that is supposed to be based on an arc from the comics wherein they all go to the South Pole and lose their powers and it's got BONDING and also dinosaurs.

he also loves it on a more personal level

In this one Evo fic I wrote once, we get a look at Magneto's base through one of his Acolyte's eyes, and basically, everything in the base has at least some metal on it (and the dishes are ALL completely made of metal, which is a pain for the one washing the dishes). Basically the guy has control issues. Also he never walks. In fact that's so much a part of my personal canon that when I went on an Evo stint a while back and he did walk, it took me several minutes to remember that I exaggerated that trait for the sake of comedy.

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wolfy_writing July 1 2011, 06:34:41 UTC
I remember the comic book arc! Gambit and Rogue got to have strongly implied sex! (I think Gambit got depowered a different time in comic book canon and was distinctly annoyed - which makes sense, as he'd lost his "Look at this cool thing I can do!" but still had the glowing red eyes that made it easy for people to spot him as a mutant - but in the short term, sex will cheer him up.)

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captlebubbles July 1 2011, 15:28:58 UTC
In Animated he confessed his love and they kissed, but she got grabbed and taken away by Sinister's goons before they could actually do anything. (Sinister would be my favorite villain if Magneto weren't such a massive dork in Evo and Animated.)

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wolfy_writing July 1 2011, 20:23:27 UTC
Sinister is interesting, and rather creepy ("He experiments on people" is quite high on the list of things that creep me out). In the comics, he and Gambit have a complicated history.

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wolfy_writing July 1 2011, 06:38:16 UTC
These are interesting thoughts. Because Charles's power strikes me as basically creepy (I have all sorts of weird and embarrassing and occasionally ugly or creepy thoughts, and I don't want someone rummaging through them and judging me based on something that's crossed my mind at the moment, plus it's a bit like thought police to the millionth power in terms of having everything about you watched.) So it's quite hard to sympathize, but you're making him more understandable.

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rionaleonhart July 1 2011, 07:24:22 UTC
I imagine he'd have seen it all before. Maybe that's why he has such faith in humanity; he's seen that everyone has dark thoughts, no matter how kind they might be, and rather than concluding that everyone is secretly awful he's gone the much more charitable route of assuming that this means everyone is capable of overcoming their darknesses.

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wolfy_writing July 1 2011, 08:30:42 UTC
It's odd to think of someone having such an understanding and sympathetic view of human nature while simultaneously not getting things like "People like privacy, and aren't just being arbitrary and unreasonable about wanting you to stay out of their heads."

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zeitheist July 1 2011, 10:34:54 UTC
Riona, please keep talking about this movie forever. (I wasn't quick enough to comment on your last post, but I read it with SUCH DELIGHT, and now this!)

'Until recently, I never had to read your mind to know what you were thinking.'

I'm also glad you made this post, because I felt like I was the only one who found this line worthy of note. At the time, I attributed it to being symptomatic of Charles' attitude towards Raven (which I tend to read in pretty unfriendly feminist terms). But I think you're right with what you say here: Charles is used to mental feedback and feels off-balance without it.

I would also point out the scene outside the CIA, where Erik asks Charles 'What you know about me?' and Charles replies with 'Everything'. It's possible that Erik was projecting his memories so strongly as he attacked Shaw that Charles couldn't help but see them, but at the same time I think this is related to what you say in this post: unconsciously, Charles does feel entitled to know everyone else's thoughts. In that sense his ( ... )

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fabrosaurus July 3 2011, 06:53:09 UTC
I don't really have anything to contribute, but this was quite interesting and enjoyable to read. I just thought I'd let you know. :)

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