And Gene Hunt Is Still Weirdly Attractive.

[rionaleonhart]

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[inappropriately]

I genuinely get the feeling that the writers have been making this up as they go along with the whole Gene-the-villain/ Jim-the-saviour idea. I went from hating Jim for the whole episode to liking him about five minutes before the end and then hating him again. I also definitely got the vibe that Gene had something to do with Sam's death. What are you trying to do, show? There are enough loose ends at the moment as it is, there's no need for more mystery.

I got more excited during the trailer for the next episode than I did during the whole show yesterday. I really wish I'd enjoyed it more :(

[rionaleonhart]

I'd love to know how much the writers have planned out in advance. There are some things that are obviously carefully thought through - the arc of the first series, for example - but at other times I get the impression that they have no idea what they're doing. I suppose part of it might depend on whether they're able to get John Simm in, because I imagine they must have at least tried to, and whether they could or couldn't might have prompted last-minute revisions.

[darkest_alchemy]

"That could be really interesting. Obviously he'd never have deliberately had a hand in it. Would - would he?"
If my crack-theory is correct and Gene is actually some kind of angel of death there to send Sam's soul on to the afterlife, he probably would. But it probably won't be that interesting. (Or, other even more of a crack-theory: Gene is God. I'm really not sure how that would work and I'm probably being tainted there by SPN's mythology but, it would be very interesting)
(I'm not watching A2A though, I couldn't stand the first series and gave up after that when I realised it was even making me hate Gene so I'll be pissed off if/when they start bringing Sam's storyline into it more and I'll probably have to watch it to find out about a storyline I'll probably hate anyway since the stuff about Sam just in the first series pissed me off enough. That and that they apparently completely forgot about Annie until I believe she got a passing mention midway through the second series. Sorry, rambling now)

[rionaleonhart]

You're making me want to see Philip Glenister playing God as Gene Hunt in Supernatural. It would be marvellously confusing.

(I'm a few episodes behind, so for all I know the God of Supernatural is Gene Hunt. I think I'll believe that he is until I've caught up.)

I enjoy Ashes to Ashes (although it took me a few episodes to come around to it at first), but Annie has indeed been sadly ignored.

[darkest_alchemy]

I don't think it's spoilery for SPN if I say so far we can't rule out God being Gene Hunt. It's probably unlikely though, but I will remain hopeful.

Annie is too awesome for Ashes to Ashes anyway. She should have her own spin off where she's running her own police department somewhere.

So you and Peter Mandelson agree

[anonymous]

Would that be Gene Hunt in his David Cameron incarnation?

Re: So you and Peter Mandelson agree

[rionaleonhart]

I don't quite know what to make of this comment. Is that you, Dad? I certainly don't find David Cameron attractive, weirdly or otherwise.

EDIT: Just saw the news story to which you were presumably referring, and I am now very amused. Gene Hunt is a popular character, Labour; is this a wise comparison to make?

Re: So you and Peter Mandelson agree

[darkest_alchemy]

I once had a slightly erotic dream (only slightly, but it still disturbed me) about David Cameron. I woke up and thought 'what the hell?'
That poster makes me think someone has written some really bizarre crossover fic there and that's an illustration for it.

[wolfy_writing]

I'd have a very hard time with something like "Gene killed Sam", but a much easier time with something like "Gene made a mistake that lead to some other people killing Sam, and didn't tell anyone about it because he thought it wouldn't do any good for them to know."

[rionaleonhart]

I'm definitely having trouble believing that Gene would have had a hand in Sam's death, even if that seems to be what's being implied. A part of me thinks he might have played a part in putting about that Sam has died when in fact he's still alive, but perhaps that's just wishful thinking.

[chenoeh]

I was wondering if maybe Gene hadn't helped Sam fake his death, and Sam is alive somewhere, maybe with Annie, which is why we haven't seen or heard of her.

[hikari_datenshi]

I was less impressed by his earlier 'The chemistry between you two, it's undeniable'.

I totally agree! In fact, I do believe I commented on the same thing in my lj, hehe. I don't like being told that there's chemistry - it sort of seems like bad writing, if that makes sense?

BUT EITHER WAY good-ass episode! I sooo don't want Gene to be evils though. It may make me sad. D:

apparantly I need an LoM/A2A icon other than this "oh shit!" one

[wolfy_writing]

It's definitely bad writing to announce something like that. I've seen it a few times on other shows (Burn Notice had an unfortunate "Let's have everyone explain how Michael and Fiona belong together, just in case anyone thinks them not being together is a good idea!"). And even when it's a couple that works well together, it's irritating because it's telegraphing things the viewer has already picked up through watching the details. (Not only is Tell, Don't Show bad, Show And Then Tell In Case They Didn't Get It can also suck.) When the viewer isn't convinced by their chemistry, it feels like a cheat and attempting to shove something down their throat.

[rionaleonhart]

It does seem like bad writing. Saying 'you have chemistry' doesn't create chemistry. If there's chemistry, the viewers will pick up on it; they shouldn't have to be told.

Pfft, clearly that icon is the only one you need. For, y'know, anything.