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morgan1 April 3 2004, 18:32:30 UTC
I find the Adbusters article profoundly scary. I think you're right to be more concerned about that than about 'the Jews killed Jesus'. The latter is something that can be deconstructed, and for lots of people, has been. Plus, we have a largely secularized culture where overtly religious 'reasons' for hatred tend not to animate mass movements. But by its very nature a conspiracy theory can't be debunked. If you try, you're either a dupe, or one of the conspirators.

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From kevinjdog richardf8 April 3 2004, 19:36:23 UTC
kevinjdogposted some responses to this post; but LJ ate them. Here they are, redacted from the notification e-mails:

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Two things... first, I'm missing the part in the article that talks about a Jewish conspiracy, and I've gone over it several times.

Secondly, I do not equate disagreeing with Israeli domestic and foreign policy with anti-Semitism. While the comparison of the Israeli government with Hitler's is reprehensible hyperbole, I have objected to policies such as the encroachment of settlers at the expense of the Palestinian civilian population. I believe that both sides could easily be doing more to speed the peace process, and certainly the Palestinian Authority, Hamas and other terrorist groups aren't helping anything with their senseless violence. But there is a danger when either side falls back on visceral, oversimplified generalizations to justify any kind of violence or oppression. Using religion to justify violence is deplorable no matter who does it ( ... )

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Re: From kevinjdog richardf8 April 3 2004, 20:27:00 UTC
Were you able to see what I meant about the adbusters article once you read it, or does it need clarification ( ... )

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Re: From kevinjdog richardf8 April 3 2004, 21:49:13 UTC
I still don't think I'm an eloquent speaker, which is why I have funny animals do it for me.

Yeah, but you put the words in their mouths. ;)

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mochii_chan April 3 2004, 19:49:20 UTC
Is America the only country where people get their philosophical views from pop culture? (Passion of the Christ, The Matrix, etc).
Then there's always when people start to assimilate the flavor of the month, at the expense of national identity (ie, Japanese Anime).

As for Gibson, to quote Goethe:
"there is something terrifying about a man of genius of whom stupid people are proud."

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richardf8 April 3 2004, 20:52:03 UTC
Popular culture in America is designed to inculcate philosophical views.

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deckardcanine April 4 2004, 09:54:15 UTC
I've never seen a reason why blacks should be more anti-Semitic than others, but it has always seemed so to me. Maybe some bigotry patterns come from so many influences as to appear arbitrary.

I'm ever so glad not to have seen anyone bring up Lieberman's faith during the latest race for nomination.

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