i consider myself to be feminist too- I never got why you would not be one.
For me, it just means men and women are equal (but different, sure) what's the problem there?
I also get very annoyed at this ridiculous notion that women going out to work is a new thing. Women have always worked throughout history with or without kids. Only those who didn't have to feed themselves stayed at home. The 'housewife' who doesn't have some kind of income (whether earned from a job outside the home or work taken in) on top of the housely duties is a relatively modern and middle class idea.... Womens contribution to the economy and social change is usually underestimated.
I also get annoyed that women should be grateful when men do anything in the home and 'help us' with housework (Bez is not like this most of the time I should add- he is very good!) it's your house too- you friggin' clean it....
Exactly!!! Every time i go to Saltaire or any mill town i think of the poor women who did the same work as the men, were paid much less and still were expected to go home and keep house. The morons who harken back to an earlier golden age of feminine passivity and domesticity forget that it was a very small part of the population that could actually manage that. For the rest, it was just drudgery. Oh dear, i am getting quite militant about this now :-) I really meant my original post to be lighthearted and a little self deprecating
A rose by any other nameedy_October 22 2010, 16:20:32 UTC
Have to say I've always shied away from claiming to be a feminist because I associate the word with extremist men-haters who feel the only way to get anything for women is to abolish what men have rather than do something productive for everyone. I've always used the term 'equalist' instead as it is gender neutral and therefore doesn't imply one side or another coming out 'on top'. Having said that I can remember discussing exactly this subject and being told I was regarded as a feminist. I guess it doesn't really matter what I label myself as - actions are what people notice and they will label those in a way that makes sense to them.
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For me, it just means men and women are equal (but different, sure)
what's the problem there?
I also get very annoyed at this ridiculous notion that women going out to work is a new thing. Women have always worked throughout history with or without kids. Only those who didn't have to feed themselves stayed at home. The 'housewife' who doesn't have some kind of income (whether earned from a job outside the home or work taken in) on top of the housely duties is a relatively modern and middle class idea....
Womens contribution to the economy and social change is usually underestimated.
I also get annoyed that women should be grateful when men do anything in the home and 'help us' with housework (Bez is not like this most of the time I should add- he is very good!)
it's your house too- you friggin' clean it....
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The morons who harken back to an earlier golden age of feminine passivity and domesticity forget that it was a very small part of the population that could actually manage that. For the rest, it was just drudgery.
Oh dear, i am getting quite militant about this now :-)
I really meant my original post to be lighthearted and a little self deprecating
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Having said that I can remember discussing exactly this subject and being told I was regarded as a feminist. I guess it doesn't really matter what I label myself as - actions are what people notice and they will label those in a way that makes sense to them.
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