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Jan 14, 2006 19:09

To those of you who've ever wanted me to read anything by Orson Scott Card...I have, and I am so utterly disgusted that I can't even think straight. Ha-ha, that's kind of a pun actually.

I saw this link on the_drifter's LJ and I figured I'd read it.
Homosexual "Marriage" and CivilizationAfter this, I can pretty much guarantee I won't be reading anything else ( Read more... )

idiocy, glbt

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queenpasiphae January 15 2006, 05:42:30 UTC
Wow...what an asshole. I haven't read any of his books, and this certainly doesn't make me want to. I especially like this part:

Only when the father became powerless or absent in the lives of huge numbers of children did we start to realize some of the things people need a father for: laying the groundwork for a sense of moral judgment; praise that is believed so that it can instill genuine self-confidence.

So children can only learn moral judgement or believe praise from a man? What a crock of bullshit. Also, with how much he was going on about reproducing I figured he'd think straight people without kids were as evil as gays and lesbians. Then I read this bit:

All heterosexual marriages, with or without children, present normalizing role models that affirm the institution of marriage; childless people can still function as effective surrogate parents in society at large, encouraging children to remain within the cycle of life. It is absurd to claim that homosexual "marriages" are in any way parallel to childless marriages in ( ... )

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retronami January 15 2006, 08:12:14 UTC
Exactly! That last paragraph you quoted really got my goat. Normalizing role models. Argh! Cycle of Life.

What a horrible claim. Human beings have so far surpassed the basic need to pass on genes. It's what makes us human for crying out loud.

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mythagon January 15 2006, 08:39:15 UTC
gah, i want to read the article, but I don't want to hate Card as I adore his books. I've always known he's a bit of a super-mormon, but I have just tried not to think about it and I've never looked into his life.

Ender's Game will always be one of my favorite books, no matter what I think of the author, though. But there also isn't marriage in the book, just kids in a military acadamy in space.

I shall read it in the morn. Right now, I wouldn't digest it.

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_franke_ January 15 2006, 08:43:12 UTC
I'm disappointed that Card's article was so offensive that it turns you off from his other writings. That sucks.

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lemerde January 17 2006, 00:09:26 UTC
Ditto. While I disagreed with the fundamental points of the article, it was well constructed based on his beliefs. Which are hardcore amateur street Mormon.

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gamahucheur January 15 2006, 15:43:18 UTC
I've long despised Card for his bloated sense of his own competence in various fields, and linked to that piece many months ago hoping that those on my Friends list who held him in some esteem would cease to do so.

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_franke_ January 15 2006, 16:13:13 UTC
I love Card's fantasy writings, regardless of who he is. Just like I love Michael Jackson's music, even though I don't care for him. For me, his ego or moral stances don't make Pastwatch any less interesting or fun to read. I, personally, I hold his books in high esteem, not him.

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gamahucheur January 15 2006, 16:24:30 UTC
It was in his novels that Card's bloated sense of competence and his twisted morality first publicly expressed itself.

For an solid analogy to hold with Michael Jackson, Jackson would have to have sung about his various vices as if they were virtues.

Of course, unless Jackson had expressed such thoughts very simply and explicitly, there would be some people who just wouldn't recognize them as such. One would hope though, that as the vices themselves were exposed, some of those people would see what others had got all along.

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_franke_ January 17 2006, 17:14:39 UTC
I guess I missed that overbearing sense of competence in his works. Or maybe I just didn't read the same Card books you did...

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