Oh CLAMP fandom why do you insist on getting dumber by the minute?

Feb 27, 2008 13:57

There seems to be a lot of... bitching... about CLAMP canon lately. Why, I don't know, it's not like CLAMP hasn't been around for ages and most of the manga that's being bitched about isn't anything new.

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minor bitching, clamp, fandom! it burns us!, stupid fat hobbit

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a_white_rain February 27 2008, 20:01:38 UTC
There was also asdlfkasl Tomoyo and Sakura's mother's for the yuri and Ora/Suu was pretty slashy. Though I'm not sure if Suu's feelings were actually romantic. But yeah, with how doomed most yuri ships are in canon and how often fandom ignores yuri pairings, no matter how compelling they might be, I'm not surprised. Mostly, I want the next CLAMP series to have a lesbian couple that ends up together. >:D Though TRC did help some.

ALSO PEOPLE ARE BITCHING ABOUT SEISHIORU/SUBARU BEING TOO ANGSTY? The pairing isn't like KuroFye or hell even Fuuma/Kamui that has hope. It's Doomed Doomed Doomed and it's always going to be Doomed. Because it's about how love can kill you, not about the redemptive powers of love.

Though some alt ships get plenty of love - Tomoyo/Eriol for instance. And Subaru/Kamui has its share of fics (though few readable. But neither is there much Fuuma/Kamui that's readable.)

ALSO HOW IS AN OOC FIC ANY GOOD? *kicks seixsub

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rekallthegreat February 27 2008, 21:08:29 UTC
I'd love it if CLAMP did a happy lesbian couple for once. A couple that doesn't end in death.

Tomoyo/Eriol? What is this Tomoyo/Eriol you speak of? I've never heard of such a pairing!

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a_white_rain February 27 2008, 21:35:06 UTC
I WANT THE GIRLS TO LOOK LIKE KOTORI AND SAKURA. BECAUSE IT WOULD BE CUTE.

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facets February 27 2008, 20:28:01 UTC
Yuri in general doesn't get enough love. >: what i really hate is that fangirls can claim to be openminded just 'cause they like the mansex, and then turn around and go EWWWWW GIRLS KISSING. umm, no. And even in canon it's mostly background or eye-candy lesbians. s-sigh.

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rekallthegreat February 27 2008, 21:05:25 UTC
I hate fans like that too. They squeal over how great yaoi is and as soon as you mention yuri, they think it's disgusting.

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chrysa February 27 2008, 21:20:18 UTC
Kaede and Sai from Angelic Layer? =\ I'd say they're as close to canon as a Clamp yuri couple usually gets.

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rekallthegreat February 27 2008, 21:33:59 UTC
I can't believe I forgot about those two!

Of course they end up in the typical yuri fashion for CLAMP since Kaede dies in the years between AL and Chobits. :(

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chrysa February 27 2008, 22:00:03 UTC
...D: This is true. But in anime-verse, Chobits and AL aren't in the same universes, I don't think.

And that's pretty much it. Alternate ships you say? Well, the CLAMP fandom isn't really one that is big on alternate ships as most of the fans ship canon pairings. Seriously, think of the alternate ships in the CLAMP fandom, they really don't have many fans. The only ones that are hugely popular are Doumeki/Watanuki and Kamui/Subaru both which have bases in canon. Hell, some canon pairings have a hard enough time finding fans.

Not that I care either way, but what makes you say DouNuki is an alternate ship? *plucks through latest chapters?* I don't see Holic as a very romantic series in general, and while there's definitely not enough support to say that it's canon, it doesn't... have a canon ship, so it's not an alternate ship? XD And there is a strange amount of love for Eriol/Tomoyo. =\ Yeah, most of the shippers are insane, but there are a handful of nice people I know like it too, so.

If Seishirou/Subaru and Fuuma/Kamui can't get ( ... )

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rekallthegreat February 27 2008, 22:08:23 UTC
Not that I care either way, but what makes you say DouNuki is an alternate ship?

I was thinking in terms of it not being canon. You're right though in it's not an alternate ship since neither are in a canon relationship.

Eriol/Tomoyo I simply forgot since I blocked it out of my mind after a recent fight with some fans.

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ashura_sama February 27 2008, 21:30:23 UTC
Besides the fandom in general has no interest in fanfics beyond KuroFay and Sakura/Syaoran.
... Fandom has interest in Sakura/Shaoran? I thought the buttsex was everything that mattered! (笑)

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a_white_rain February 27 2008, 21:36:06 UTC
Depends on where you go! And in poll SyaSaku ship tends to be the most popular.

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rekallthegreat February 27 2008, 22:10:45 UTC
Well... umm... they talk about Syaoran/Sakura from time to time... usually insane talk like how they're the same as the ones from CCS, but it counts, right...?

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kryptyd February 28 2008, 08:55:53 UTC
I think that yuri person was some sort of troll. I'm not exactly sure what kind, but her posts were so strange I don't think she was being completely serious. I mean all that "read my fic" "look at my art" stuff was just downright odd! I suspect what she was attempting was to make the other posters on the thread look like hypocrites by getting them to say "NO WAI! YURI = EEEWWWW!!1" but of course someone (can't remember who, sorry ladies, but it was someone I know) pointed out that she was being slightly hypocritical in saying that yaoi was baseless and had little value whilst promoting yuri, baseless or otherwise. Anyway basically what I'm saying is she/he is a s**t-stirrer, pure and simple, and her/his "opinions" probably shouldn't be taken seriosuly as they were only said to cause trouble it would seem

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