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shaebay August 17 2010, 04:12:15 UTC
Haven't seen it yet, and I do plan to see it (even though I've never read the comic), but 'Manic Pixie Dream Girl' could so be a Francesca Lia Block character, lol.

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poisonrational August 17 2010, 04:12:38 UTC
I totally agree. <3

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redstapler August 17 2010, 04:17:14 UTC
It just sorta made me really sad, you know?

It may actually be the first time I can think of where I wasn't let into the boys' club.

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poisonrational August 17 2010, 04:35:55 UTC
I really truly enjoy (and enjoyed) the series; but I was really, really hoping to see some character development of Ramona in the last book. All that was shown was that she does have a lot of lazy traits in common with Scott... which almost lessened her as a character, since we were lead to assume she was assertive and go-get-em, even of she WAS running from her past. So, yeah. :/

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bassringer August 17 2010, 23:01:36 UTC
What do you mean by that?

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pocketmouse August 17 2010, 04:57:17 UTC
Everyone says that this movie is awesome, but seeing as this was my big objection as soon as I heard the summary, I don't think I'll watch it. I'll stick with Run, Lola, Run for my kickass women video-game-esque movie of choice, thank you.

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redstapler August 17 2010, 14:58:19 UTC
It's totally worth a viewing, if only for the ensemble cast. I still can't stand Michael Cera, but I <3 pretty much everyone else so much more.

Also, the interpretation from the comic is fantastic, and definitely worth viewing on the big screen.

This commentary was more about its marketing focus and misdirections.

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pocketmouse August 17 2010, 19:21:45 UTC
It really does sound like most of the movie is about the guys.

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redstapler August 17 2010, 19:25:06 UTC
It's about Scott and Ramona's exes (one of whom is a woman), which sends a teeth-gnashingly bad message about how your SOs baggage can come back and hurt you, and oh yeah, maybe them, too. (Which is actually another post I want to write.)

That aside, it's fun to play spot-the-reference (bonus for spot-the-Candiana), holy-shit-those-shoes-are-amazing (YMMV), and general enjoyment of a knocks-it-out-of-the-park ensemble cast.

Kieran Culkin as Wallace Wells steals every scene he's in.

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redstapler August 17 2010, 14:13:15 UTC
They did it with Kim Pine, too.

Scott's relationships (as in association with, not just their romantic histories) with both of them are really important road maps that we just don't really get in the movie.

The handwave they give Kim at the fightscene at the end was really just insulting. Kim is enough of a hardass that a hastily said "I'm sorry" after years of lack of acknowledgment of his behavior surely can't cut it.

The way it was handled in the book was far more satisfying and respectful to everyone involved.

Ironically enough, I felt like Knives actually had some great character development in the movie. It happened in the books too, but a little too slow for me to track it easily. (Also, as I said in a comment below, it's been about two years since I read 1 - 5, so there's a lot I'm forgetting.)

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redstapler August 17 2010, 15:58:02 UTC
Yeah, he was great. He made my skin crawl, but hey: That's what he was there for.

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shipchan August 17 2010, 06:50:46 UTC
I have to say I've seen a lot of people make this point and while I get it I don't agree. I think Ramona is very fleshed out and strong female character. She doesn't get involved because she doesn't choose to, that's the point and that's that character's failing. I also don't really feel that because they feel Ramona wasn't fleshed out this movie doesn't include women or wasn't for them. I don't relate to Ramona not because she's not fleshed out but because I just don't and find that I rarely relate to characters like her. I related most to Steven Stills and Wallace Wells, and even though they're not main characters I felt they were fleshed out and that this movie for sure included and was made for people like me.

But that's just me. Reading all the reviews and thoughts on this has been pretty cool when it comes to gender stuff and generational stuff and story telling and it's been really interesting to read them.

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