Jamie Oliver - Episodes 2 - 5

[redstapler]

Zuh?

I don't know what y'all are saying about "it gets better."

It's gotten worse.They keep trotting out Death Fats tearfully telling us how their fat is killing them, or family members of people who've died because of complications from obesity

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[thessalian]

Jamie finally talks to skinny teenagers, and instead of talking about health, he tells them that french fries will make their bottoms wider.

I haven't been watching this (I think Jamie Oliver's up there in the rank of Smarmbuckets and I hate him a little bit) but the teen thing doesn't surprise me. I dunno about over there, but here there are relatively few if any teenagers who, if you told them that their health was at risk over what they were eating, a) wouldn't care and b) would eat more of the bad stuff just to spite you. Get them in the vanity - in that style-over-substance core of usual teendom, and you at least have a chance of getting them to eat healthy, even if for the wrong reasons, and explain the health concerns when they're not so up themselves.

[redstapler]

Drat, where's a Quinn LJ icon when I need one!

Your point is well made, and yeah, appealing to teen vanity is probably the best way to go.

It just irritated me that the first time he spoke solely to thin people, he told them that eating crap would make them fat.

[thessalian]

Yeah, I get you. Maybe see what happens when he talks to reasonably thin adults? I dunno.

As for the doctor visit thing, though, another point: he's British. GP visits don't cost. Is it being filmed in the US, or what? If so, I suppose he might not be taking the differences into account.

[redstapler]

GP visits don't cost. Is it being filmed in the US, or what? If so, I suppose he might not be taking the differences into account.

Hm. True.

But seriously, what educated person in the UK doesn't know about the clusterfuck we call a healthcare system? It's no secret that doctor's visits in the US, especially without insurance, are a financial nightmare.

I can give Jamie a pass for not knowing about USDA school lunch guidelines, or the bureaucratic tangled knots that hold up the funding. But to just blithely assume that a blue collar family of six whose insurance status is unknown to the viewers can afford to go to the doctor? Bzzt. Nope.

[supergee]

I want a Death Fats biker jacket.

[shes_not_there]

OMG seconded. Written below it in smaller font: "Born To Fry".

[redstapler]

You're the known crafter, hon. ;)

[sparkindarkness]

Ugh he may talk nicelyh but the whole programme is clearly slanted towards fat shaming.

It could have been done so much better - but not without that and NOT without acknowledging the limitations of society - the cost of eating healthy, the time it takes, the cost of doctors. You can't address people's diet and health without addressiung this

[zekejojo]

I'm hoping there's some sort of wrap-up where they do address all these issues that keep people from eating healthily and taking care of their health in general. I feel like they did expand over the course of the episodes to touch on the different issues. They haven't gone into anything in depth at all, which isn't surprised for 6 episodes of reality TV