My boss has meetings, so I have been banished from the downstairs office. There is some other paperwork I'm supposed to be doing, but I'm going to talk about everything I've watched recently instead.
I really felt like Moffat was doing Doctor/Rose II. It didn't feel like he was bringing anything new to the table. But I'll give it a chance to grow on me.
RE: Idk, it's working for me, but then I'll follow Dean pretty much anywhere.
true, true! the bebe won't see it with me! she read the book and everything, but she refuses to go. she went to see diary of a wimpy kid with my mom and while the bebe loved it, my mother said it was really problematic. KIDS.
but I'm pretty sure the epic love of John and Mary used to be a plot point, didn't it?
Not that I remember, and I've watched the entire series in just a few months. There was a lot of idealizing of Mary from Dean, mostly of the DON'T TALK ABOUT HER BEING DEAD type.
There were really only those couple of moments before the fire, which aren't particularly telling one way or the other. There's a lot of talk about how much John was devastated by her death, but I don't think that rules out a troubled marriage.
YMMV but it worked for me. It felt more realistic -- the whole "it was only perfect after she died" thing -- than John and Mary were starcrossed lovers who never had any problems. It would certainly explain a lot of John's guilt.
I am definitely at a point where I am skeptical of many moves SPN is making and that probably colors my perspective on a lot of stuff. I agree that I definitely don't want to see them as starcrossed lovers with a *perfect* marriage because that would be unrealistic it just felt like...hmmm, drawing explicit attention to it at this stage of the game was probably done to make a larger point about John and further some of the absent father God/John parallels they've got going this season and that's really the part that has me a little wary, if that makes sense. If they're talking about that now, then there's a *reason* for it.
I haven't seen it yet. Probably when it comes to DVD. It's definitely a bit of froth for Lehane; not nearly at the level of brilliance that Mystic River was. But man, the guy can write.
So my one shred of hope that Amy/Eleven won't be a romantically-charged dynamic is that River Song is slated to reappear and she and the Doctor clearly are supposed to get together in some capacity since she knows his name and all that jazz. Still, I think the best we can hope for is that she worships him in a kind of fangirl/hero-worship fashion, which might be better than being tragically in love with him but not by heaps.
Honestly, I think the romance angle would be a little creepy - she got all obsessed with him when she was a little kid - but the fact that she's got a wedding dress hanging in the wardrobe makes me think it's not going to be a romantic relationship. Flirty, probably, since new!Who can't not do flirty apparently, but maybe not romantic on purpose.
That's true. And maybe the wedding dress does show that it *won't* be romantic? I think this is a platonic dynamic that would be really interesting to me.
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Yeah, I got that vibe a bit too. I really, really hope that's not what ends up happening.
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Not that I remember, and I've watched the entire series in just a few months. There was a lot of idealizing of Mary from Dean, mostly of the DON'T TALK ABOUT HER BEING DEAD type.
There were really only those couple of moments before the fire, which aren't particularly telling one way or the other. There's a lot of talk about how much John was devastated by her death, but I don't think that rules out a troubled marriage.
YMMV but it worked for me. It felt more realistic -- the whole "it was only perfect after she died" thing -- than John and Mary were starcrossed lovers who never had any problems. It would certainly explain a lot of John's guilt.
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I thought the "Shutter Island" book was interesting because I felt it was quite ambiguous at the end as to whether the big reveal was true or not.
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