Speaking of Jena

[reality_hammer]

Speaking of Jena....
In early December the case of the "Jena Six"--the six African-American high school students in Louisiana accused of viciously beating a white classmate in 2006--collapsed dramatically with a felony guilty plea by one of the defendants. As something that was going to trigger "America's next great civil rights movement" (to quote

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[inibo]

Hey, is that a new user pic?

Here is the definition I like:
A libertarian is a person who believes that no one has the right, under any circumstances, to initiate force against another human being, or to advocate or delegate its initiation. Those who act consistently with this principle are libertarians, whether they realize it or not. Those who fail to act consistently with it are not libertarians, regardless of what they may claim. - L. Neil Smith

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z1buym2xUM

Oh, yeah. We're supposed to be talking about Jena, right? *yawn*

[jordan179]

How is Hammer arguing in favor of initiating the use of force when discussing the "Jena Six?"

[inibo]

He's not. I just liked his user pic and kind of went off on a tangent. My bad. Jena is inconsequential to me, at least as far as it being anything more than a local crime story.

[reality_hammer]

Initiation of force is a good enough concept except that some people get stuck on what "initiate" means. :/

Thus the split amongst libertarians over the Iraq war.

[jordan179]

The "Jena Six" are who the Scottsboro Boys would have been if they had been utterly and completely GUILTY. Has it yet entered Obama's mind that, by leaguing himself with the defenders of thugs, he may harm his own reputation just a teensy weensy bit?

That wont stop them...

[dlombard]

None of that matters to a died-in-the-wool Victocrat. All you have to do is claim that these people were coerced into pleading guilty by either incompetent or corrupt legal representation, allowed by a racist judge. That it turned out to be a better deal to take guilty pleas, and appeal to a higher court, than deal with the racists on that jury. Or any number of other ridiculous, made-up crap that you can listen to just by sauntering into any neighborhood, black-run barbershop. You know, tellin 'it like it is, and Keepin' It Real

Re: That wont stop them...

[reality_hammer]

And when people try to reverse the trend they are called Uncle Toms and race traitors.

The liberals know that an upwardly mobile middle class is not friendly to socialist ideas. They have to keep people (of all categories) down so socialism at least appears to be a good thing.

Re: That wont stop them...

[cutelildrow]

Instead, there are these tribes competing for supremacy through bloodshed.

...Sounds like the shit that's going on in Africa. They ought to go there to see how the Black man treats their fellow Black Man, and find out their being black isn't going to protect them one whit. Their being American might, by way of being useful in some way or form, but the color of their skin isn't going to give them any benefit at all.

[reality_hammer]

Al's come a long way from the track suit days.

Not far enough, but a lot farther than Jesse ever will. I think Jesse knows that outside of pimping for the Democrats he doesn't have much in the way of job prospects.

[jordan179]

Once Revs. Jackson and Sharpton were on the ground, the Jena 6 could have been convicted of whistling at a white woman, sentenced to 60 years, and Christian-Rightists would not have protested the lunacy of such a sentence because their distaste for Jackson and Sharpton is that strong.

On what do you base this theory, given that they were in fact in trouble because they severely beat someone, apparently without provocation? Do you realize how extreme an insult your claim is, given the history of the Ameican South?

You are trivializing the sufferings of the truly innocent victims of lynchings, 50 and more years ago, by comparing them to these thugs who are being punished by due process of law for committing an actual felony crime.