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Well finally got to play some Street Fighter 4, here's some ranting.
(keep in mind I've watched very little of the game and paid little attention to the media surrounding it. Basically, I didn't know shit about it prior. Why do I care about something that I can't play? Guess that changes now, though.)
Ok, so today we went down to SJSU.. We were going for a Guilty Gear tourney, but the main attraction for me honestly was Street Fighter 4. We missed the tourney cause we left too late anyways. At least the machines in the arcade (CvS2, GGAC) were 25 cents rather than the usual 50. SF4 was a whopping 75 cents per play though, but it's all shiny and new and shit so that's kinda understandable.
..After dropping about $10 on the game, I still don't have a feel for it.. But I played a little bit and watched enough matches to get at least an idea of how things are.
Things of note...
FUCKIN SUPER METERS
Like two separate meters. And a lot to do with them, as well. Maybe on par with GGAC complexity? I spent like two matches trying to figure out which meter did what... Theres two meters, a variety of things can be done.. The first meter is the EX meter, which is divided into four, allowing you to do EX attacks (ala 3S, Darkstalkers). Save up all four, and you get to do a regular super. The problem I have with this is honestly, I don't see any point in saving up for the fucking super when you have some really retarded good EX attacks (any EX dragon punch is retarded, EX tiger knee, tiger upper, and the most retarded fucking move i've seen in my life, EX SPD with Gief, which I'll write more about later) which you can use multiples of to secure just as much, if not more damage than the super itself.. though I honestly can't recall seeing a regular super go off at any point during the night.. EX are too good.
Second is the ultra meter, which is used for both Ultra attacks (which are usually cinematic.. think like you're connecting with a super in an anime game or something) that do a shitton of damage, and revenge attacks.. which I dunno if I saw any of. I dunno the real purpose of the revenge stuff yet, I may have seen it? But I really dunno. Anyway, from a CVS2 perspective, basically SF4's meter system is you get a C-Meter and a K-Meter, the Ultra meter filling up as you get hit.. Dunno if it goes up on block, gotta watch some videos to check that. I believe they also go up if you get hit during a 'Focus' attack (hit MP+MK at once) which basically is a charged strike that has super armor (?) during it.. I think it works as an alpha counter as well.
One of the things that bugged me was super armor during some EX attacks. Some were understandable, but some are TOO good. Balrog charges you with an EX punch? Ok, you can't knock him out of it, just block. SOME characters can be knocked from it (Vega's EX walldive seemed to be easily punishable) but in the case of some, it does get stupid. Zangief's EX SPD is probably the most ridiculous move ever.. heavy damage, super armor, gief crosses half the screen to do it, it grabs you out of whatever you happen to be doing at the time, and is sgenerally just difficult to fight against. Combine this with somebody who's doing that in tandem with regular tick 360s and greenfists, and you have a huge problem.
Like, seriously. I saw a Honda player doing handslaps against him, and Gief just EX SPDs and walks straight through them. Which idiot at Capcom approved this move? At least Gief isnt shit tier anymore.
(Speaking of Gief, does he even have his lariats anymore? I swear, I didnt see one fucking lariat the whole night)
Other random shit that happened was Sagat being Sagat (Weirdst fucking thing happened in a match with a friend - He jumps over me, he's clearly over my head, I activate ultra.. suddenly he's in front of me for it to connect? uhhhh....), Shotos being Shotos (except when El Furete did some move that BEAT A FIERCE SHORYUKEN, HOLY SHIT that was crazy, everyone just kinda went "OMG, WHAT"), Rufus' c.FP CROSSES THE WHOLE DAMN SCREEN WHY, Vega THROWS HIS CLAW (i did the best combo ever - I was going for LK, LP, roll attack, but instead of a roll attack, i fucked up the motion and he just went 'fuck it' and threw his claw up in the air. I then ate an EX SPD and lost the match, great times. At least Vega's still got an airthrow! That caught people off guard.), Guile losing a lot of reach on his c.LK and his s.MK not seeming as good anymore (actually, the way Guile played threw me really off and irritated me, it doesnt seem like his normals have nearly as much range as they should).
anyway, I'll write more about SF4 later, don't get the ranting wrong, it's a really really good game, but it just needs polish. me actually learning how to play would actually help too.
Also, SJSU made me fucking rage. Why did they replace Espgaluda 2 with motherfucking 1945? YOU DONT REPLACE A FUCKING CAVE SHOOTER WITH 1945.
(keep in mind I've watched very little of the game and paid little attention to the media surrounding it. Basically, I didn't know shit about it prior. Why do I care about something that I can't play? Guess that changes now, though.)
Ok, so today we went down to SJSU.. We were going for a Guilty Gear tourney, but the main attraction for me honestly was Street Fighter 4. We missed the tourney cause we left too late anyways. At least the machines in the arcade (CvS2, GGAC) were 25 cents rather than the usual 50. SF4 was a whopping 75 cents per play though, but it's all shiny and new and shit so that's kinda understandable.
..After dropping about $10 on the game, I still don't have a feel for it.. But I played a little bit and watched enough matches to get at least an idea of how things are.
Things of note...
FUCKIN SUPER METERS
Like two separate meters. And a lot to do with them, as well. Maybe on par with GGAC complexity? I spent like two matches trying to figure out which meter did what... Theres two meters, a variety of things can be done.. The first meter is the EX meter, which is divided into four, allowing you to do EX attacks (ala 3S, Darkstalkers). Save up all four, and you get to do a regular super. The problem I have with this is honestly, I don't see any point in saving up for the fucking super when you have some really retarded good EX attacks (any EX dragon punch is retarded, EX tiger knee, tiger upper, and the most retarded fucking move i've seen in my life, EX SPD with Gief, which I'll write more about later) which you can use multiples of to secure just as much, if not more damage than the super itself.. though I honestly can't recall seeing a regular super go off at any point during the night.. EX are too good.
Second is the ultra meter, which is used for both Ultra attacks (which are usually cinematic.. think like you're connecting with a super in an anime game or something) that do a shitton of damage, and revenge attacks.. which I dunno if I saw any of. I dunno the real purpose of the revenge stuff yet, I may have seen it? But I really dunno. Anyway, from a CVS2 perspective, basically SF4's meter system is you get a C-Meter and a K-Meter, the Ultra meter filling up as you get hit.. Dunno if it goes up on block, gotta watch some videos to check that. I believe they also go up if you get hit during a 'Focus' attack (hit MP+MK at once) which basically is a charged strike that has super armor (?) during it.. I think it works as an alpha counter as well.
One of the things that bugged me was super armor during some EX attacks. Some were understandable, but some are TOO good. Balrog charges you with an EX punch? Ok, you can't knock him out of it, just block. SOME characters can be knocked from it (Vega's EX walldive seemed to be easily punishable) but in the case of some, it does get stupid. Zangief's EX SPD is probably the most ridiculous move ever.. heavy damage, super armor, gief crosses half the screen to do it, it grabs you out of whatever you happen to be doing at the time, and is sgenerally just difficult to fight against. Combine this with somebody who's doing that in tandem with regular tick 360s and greenfists, and you have a huge problem.
Like, seriously. I saw a Honda player doing handslaps against him, and Gief just EX SPDs and walks straight through them. Which idiot at Capcom approved this move? At least Gief isnt shit tier anymore.
(Speaking of Gief, does he even have his lariats anymore? I swear, I didnt see one fucking lariat the whole night)
Other random shit that happened was Sagat being Sagat (Weirdst fucking thing happened in a match with a friend - He jumps over me, he's clearly over my head, I activate ultra.. suddenly he's in front of me for it to connect? uhhhh....), Shotos being Shotos (except when El Furete did some move that BEAT A FIERCE SHORYUKEN, HOLY SHIT that was crazy, everyone just kinda went "OMG, WHAT"), Rufus' c.FP CROSSES THE WHOLE DAMN SCREEN WHY, Vega THROWS HIS CLAW (i did the best combo ever - I was going for LK, LP, roll attack, but instead of a roll attack, i fucked up the motion and he just went 'fuck it' and threw his claw up in the air. I then ate an EX SPD and lost the match, great times. At least Vega's still got an airthrow! That caught people off guard.), Guile losing a lot of reach on his c.LK and his s.MK not seeming as good anymore (actually, the way Guile played threw me really off and irritated me, it doesnt seem like his normals have nearly as much range as they should).
anyway, I'll write more about SF4 later, don't get the ranting wrong, it's a really really good game, but it just needs polish. me actually learning how to play would actually help too.
Also, SJSU made me fucking rage. Why did they replace Espgaluda 2 with motherfucking 1945? YOU DONT REPLACE A FUCKING CAVE SHOOTER WITH 1945.