Comments | ravenstar84: What is wrong with you Snapedom?

ravenstar84

What is wrong with you Snapedom?

Oct 06, 2010 16:46

I am now dead convinced everyone in this comm is white*

Why?

marionros/smallpotato: "'s Excuse me? Who says that teen Severus calls all Muggle-borns but Lily 'Mudblood'?

I read Lily's claim to be 'don't You People (aka 'all Slytherins') call my people 'mudbloods'", because Teen Lily sounds pretty much brainwashed into the Gryffindor mindset at ( Read more... )

rants, racism, snape, racefail, fandom is stupid, harry potter

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rainaweather October 7 2010, 01:01:14 UTC

It looks like a lot of people there (like in all sides of the fandom from what I gather) can't tell the difference between the words that are on the page and the way other fans interpret those words. The prejudice they're complaining about isn't even in the books;it's in the fandom.

it the case where people just accept that marionros is completely batshit, so saying anything is pointless, maybe?
Yes. Most comments I see don't get a response from me whether I agree or not. I used to always respond to posts that I thought displayed prejudice, but now I get half way through a reply then I say, "oh. fuck it."

rainaweather October 7 2010, 01:16:02 UTC

Though I get the feeling that someone from there is gonna come out and tell me they're a POC and okay with this, and this will all bite me in the ass anyway

I have two replies to this

1. Yes, it's possible. Especially so because the prejudice in the books is against fictional people. Just because JKR wants it to reflect real life racism doesn't mean every POC is gonna see it that way. I see the parallels to racism, but I don't think about that when I read the books.

2. Who cares? Most of the time when I'm in a debate about racism/sexism/whatever, I'm arguing against a person who is affected by it. Just because there are people of color who don't mind or don't notice racism doesn't mean your opinions or experiences are invalid.

ravenstar84 October 7 2010, 02:56:37 UTC

"1. Yes, it's possible. Especially so because the prejudice in the books is against fictional people. Just because JKR wants it to reflect real life racism doesn't mean every POC is gonna see it that way. I see the parallels to racism, but I don't think about that when I read the books."

I was referring to a POC from Snapedom being okay with comparing house rivalry to racism, which is most definitely not in the books. And I haven't run into a POC (specifically those who are minorities in their countries) agree with this yet.

"2. Who cares? Most of the time when I'm in a debate about racism/sexism/whatever, I'm arguing against a person who is affected by it. Just because there are people of color who don't mind or don't notice racism doesn't mean your opinions or experiences are invalid."

I said that in light of calling everyone on Snapedom white, which I'm 99.9% sure is all the current active members. Particularly the people who replied to the thread I linked.

ravenstar84 October 7 2010, 02:59:00 UTC

"Yes. Most comments I see don't get a response from me whether I agree or not. I used to always respond to posts that I thought displayed prejudice, but now I get half way through a reply then I say, "oh. fuck it."

I think that proves even more how fucked up this comm is.

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inverarity October 7 2010, 02:39:24 UTC

racist towards Slytherins

Slytherins are a race, now?

ravenstar84 October 7 2010, 07:11:04 UTC

According to Snapefen logic, yes.

eumelkeks October 7 2010, 06:44:13 UTC

Help me out here, I read the bigger excerpt on the HMS STFU and I'm baffled why calling a werewolf a werewolf is racist but calling a non-magical person a Mudblood isn't. DOES NOT COMPUTE.

ravenstar84 October 7 2010, 07:10:21 UTC

They're complaining about a double standard that doesn't exist. Contrary to past arguments they've made, they're currently arguing calling someone a mudblood is just the same as discriminating against werewolves and other non humans. Snape gets torn down for what he called Lily, but Ron gets a pass for talking crap about werewolves, even though the books already establish the latter as a flaw.

sailorlum October 7 2010, 16:05:51 UTC

Nobody ever bats an eye or says anything whenever marionros or someone says something like this. NO ONE! (Is it the case where people just accept that marionros is completely batshit, so saying anything is pointless, maybe?)Sadly, after my experience in talking about racism with them, I think most of the vocal posters there don't have a problem with what she says and may even agree with her ( ... )

ravenstar84 October 7 2010, 16:31:46 UTC

Holy crap, I totally forgot you used to post there! *head desk* I do remember you tried to engage them on racism discussion and what not. You're awesome! I'm post/rant is directed to the current members who believe/have no problem with this crap. I think you're the only one who ever did say anything.

"Those willing to call it out will not survive at Snapedom long, though. They would be constantly kicking up wankstorms and likely tire of bashing their head against the rocks of batshit insanity and fail. I know I tired of it on Snapedom, that's for sure."

*Sigh* That is the case. I do agree they are in a privilege bubble. What upsets me most is that when racist/misogynist/etc. screeds are preached like this, it makes these spaces really unsafe for a lot of people.

"That reminds me, I need to pick a new featured topic for Snape Sanity. I'm thinking something somewhat light. Like Snape's hygiene or lack thereof."I was gonna ask you about this. In light of our discussion about beard/no beard Snape, we should have a poll. I can write ( ... )

sailorlum October 7 2010, 17:24:10 UTC

ravenstar84 October 7 2010, 16:49:15 UTC

Also, I'm noticing shyfoxling/elethian is trying to discuss reason with them. I just hope they don't tear her down like they've done with everyone else.

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summeriris October 11 2010, 22:30:01 UTC

Well. I found out Pearl, it can be perilous to your inbox. I watched an interesting ducumentry about the artist William Hogarth Sunday night, after Strictly Come Dancing. Bye Bye Goldie.
I found myself thinking about Rowling's work while I was watching it. Hogarth held up this unflincing mirror to his society and it reverbates to this day. In many ways I think Rowling also holds up a mirror. She never condemns, it is up to the reader to see the reflection and make up their own minds about what is reflected. I think that might be a part of Snapefen's problem. They cannot bring themselves to admit that the reflection demands a judgement, they would rather blame her for not giving them what they consider a pretty picture. Am I making sense?