New Backstory on Pottermore Makes Lupin Fans Weep with Joy

Aug 16, 2013 15:31

Warning: I'm not a Lupin Fan and I don't mean to bother all the Lupin fans out there with my snark. If you are feeling all warm and fuzzy about Lupin, please don't read this, thanks ( Read more... )

harry potter, werewolf, pottermore, severus snape, fandom, prisoner of azkaban, remus lupin, nymphadora tonks, rowling

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wobblerlorri August 16 2013, 22:29:12 UTC
No matter how hard she tries to spin it, Lupin & Co. were douches, and Severus was the hero of the entire piece.

(And "Moondance" is by Van Morrison, not Cat Stevens. That was "Moonshadow".)

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snapes_witch August 17 2013, 06:23:27 UTC
Not only is Snape the hero, if it hadn't been for Snape there would be NO story.

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wobblerlorri August 17 2013, 14:29:04 UTC
Exactly. If she hated Snape so much, why the heck did she center the entire book around him?

That's why I won't read anything else she writes -- until she gives Severus the love he deserves and that she wrote for him, I have no respect for her.

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rattlesnakeroot August 17 2013, 19:03:28 UTC
Even after this voluminous amount of material she's written about Lupin, he still doesn't come across as a noble guy, Order of Merlin or not! She's just apologizing for all his flaws, and once again holding Snape to a higher set of moral values since apparently he was supposed to keep Lupin's secret no matter how irresponsible and dishonest Lupin was.

Looked at another way, Snape overcame his dislike and worked with Lupin in the Order. And in that context, the Christmas scene with Lupin in HBP makes sense because he is the one feeling remorse for the way he treated Snape when they were children. But this piece on Pottermore doesn't give that impression, but merely glosses over the worst things Lupin did. Is it still supposed to be funny that Lupin was the first to insult Snape with the Marauders Map?

Wobblerlori: Thanks about the song - just had a mind-blip on that.

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mary_j_59 August 16 2013, 23:55:23 UTC
Good post! I had meant to steer you over to Deathtocapslock, if you hadn't gotten there already.

Rowling continues to amaze me with her shallow take on her characters. How can she not see that, far from being the kind, talented, empathetic person he seems to be on the surface, Lupin as written is cruel, selfish, and irresponsible. I used to like him, but it's beyond me how anyone could like him any more after DJ and his abandonment of his family.

My two cents. (I would add that, even on first reading, when I liked the character, I found Lupin's cold and vengeful behavior in POA absolutely chilling. And people think SEVERUS is vengeful - and blame him for it, while they don't blame either Lupin or Sirius!)

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wobblerlorri August 17 2013, 14:29:42 UTC
I'm beginning to wonder if someone else ghostwrote HP for her, since she doesn't seem to really "get" her characters...

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rattlesnakeroot August 17 2013, 19:07:33 UTC
Mary J.: Hwyla and SnapesWitch steered me to Deathtocapslock. :)

I think JKR had a chance with Lupin/Tonks to fix some of the problems with their romance, to make it have more emotional depth, and for me it just fails. Now it seems even more of an obligatory quickie wartime marriage. We still know nothing about how Tonks family felt, watching her fall apart while being in love with a Werewolf. It's all written more as an outline than a true love story. Just, blah.

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snapes_witch August 18 2013, 04:18:41 UTC
She just utterly fails at writing romance. Look at how badly she wrote Harry/Ginny (chest monster?) and Ron/Hermione; so much so that fanfic writers generally pair them with other characters. Even slash!

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Incorporeal Patronus ms_arithmancer August 18 2013, 21:22:33 UTC
I have not read the material yet myself, but based on what you say, the Patronus information does shed light on Snape-related mysteries. To wit - how could Snape have used a Patronus to communicate with Order members at the end of OotP (as is implied) without this having raised questions later, when he "murdered" Dumbledore? And, why did Dumbledore seem surprised to learn, within the timeline of HBP but in a famous scene of "The Prince's Tale" that Snape's Patronus was a Doe?

The answer seems, clearly, that this is because Snape did communicate with these various people using a Patronus, but an incorporeal one.

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Re: Incorporeal Patronus rattlesnakeroot August 19 2013, 19:43:48 UTC
Yes, indeed - that makes sense! Half the time people seem to misidentify patronuses - Ron with Aberforth, for instance. If Snape used an incorporeal patronus, and a DE happened to ever see it, he could just say it must have been someone else.

I'm going to post a separate thread for this with some quotes from the new material - just been lazy about it. :) I'll try to get on that tonight.

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