Mugglenet Essay about Snape's "Deification"

Nov 20, 2011 22:44

The author of this Mugglenet Essay believes that the Snape fans "deify" ~ ahem, "worship" ~ Snape. And the condescending tone is certainly something we've come to expect in such lectures. One thing you'll notice is the mantra that certain negative things about Snape "cannot be ignored." But then the writer, named Glovebox, turns around and ignores ( Read more... )

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wobblerlorri November 21 2011, 04:44:21 UTC
And don't forget that hoary old chestnut, "People only love Snape because they've confused him with Alan Rickman". Okay. I guess I loved Snape in books 1 - 3, which were out BEFORE the movies, because I psychically knew somehow that Alan Rickman would be cast as Snape.

What other reason is there to be a fan of the Great Bat O' The Dungeons, anyway? He certainly doesn't carry the entire story on his shoulders, after all...

:roll eyes:

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snapes_witch November 21 2011, 05:41:51 UTC
OK, I admit it! I read the first four books after I found out Alan Rickman was portraying Snape, but I had become a fan of Snape before I ever saw the first movie.

Excellent critique, SIP. You saved me from having to read the whole fricking thing.

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rattlesnakeroot November 21 2011, 05:57:57 UTC
You're welcome ~ I probably wrote more critique than this drivel deserves.

It's so hilarious, because I was never an Alan Rickman fan much, even after the first three movies, but I was always a Snape fan.

And really what made me a Snape fan for life was re-reading GoF and OotP over the years because Snape is just awesome in those books and we learn so much more about him.

The fact that AR is such a great actor and great human being in general is icing on the cake. And he looks great in a black wig.

I just think AR has gotten better and better as the series went along and he became more comfortable with the character. If that is some kind of crime, they can lock me away and toss the key.

(Note to wobblerlori: I reposted this because I wanted to reply to both you and snapes_witch)

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ms_arithmancer November 21 2011, 11:56:18 UTC
BWAHAHAHAHA. I enjoyed reading this!

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rattlesnakeroot November 21 2011, 14:05:06 UTC
Oh, I'm glad! LOL

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ms_arithmancer November 21 2011, 12:25:19 UTC
"I do not love him for how he loved Lily, or for how he treated Harry. I think he is brilliant because his character is so interesting, and not because he is a good person - because villains and good guys are always so stupidly predictable these days, and he is an exception to this rule."

Heh. I don't love Snape for how he loved Lily either. I love him because he is a good person, and because he *was* so stupidly predictable for the last 17 years of his life.

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rattlesnakeroot November 21 2011, 13:40:48 UTC
Well-said! :)

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subtle1science November 21 2011, 12:40:32 UTC
Definitely a major case of SOS, Different Day.....

Yet another Snater who, first and foremost, can't stop talking about Snape. Even if I did have some sort of whacko altar to Snape set up, with flowers and incense, next to my computer--what difference can that possibly make to Glove? Why would that be an issue for Glove? Why in the world would s/he care?

That enormous point aside--Glove's obviously just another one of the butthurt who missed all the information in the novels...and whose outrage was magnified by a power of 1,000 by the revelation that the film makers, reviewers, and audiences for DH2 were in accord with the dreaded "Snape worshippers."

Snater Glove couldn't read well enough to comprehend the novels; DH twisted his/her knickers; and now s/he has to take out the frustration on the fans who could read. What a buffoon.

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rattlesnakeroot November 21 2011, 13:58:40 UTC

That's exactly the way I see it. The book offends, the movie offends, so we become the scapegoats for their inability to accept the plot of the story.

The most extraordinary thing to me is that Glovebox admits several times that she/he was "fooled" by JKR, and they compliment the author on her ability to do that. But apparently that has traumatized this person into writing a diatribe aimed at the Snape fans, who were NOT fooled. Anger + Jealousy = Denial

The Snaters remind me more and more of soldiers who don't know the war is over and the other side won. So they remain in their bunkers harping about all the reasons Snape is evil as the world moves on without them. The DH2 movie-bomb of Snape at Godric's Hollow made the James/Lily ship sink too, but they are still looking for it, in their "shades of gray" lifeboat in the fog.

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rattlesnakeroot November 21 2011, 14:03:20 UTC
But I have to admit, it was fun to read this stuff written in a form for the general public instead of just a bunch of profanity, porn, or gibberish about snakes and rainbows. Glovebox was really holding back the crazy and channeling it into condescension, so I'll give them credit for that. LOL

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subtle1science November 21 2011, 14:29:28 UTC
Exactly--Glove was 'fooled' by JKR: ie, s/he couldn't grasp anything other than what was on the surface. However, other people could, and they could see where JKR was heading, so.....Now Glove is throwing a tantrum against the fans who understood the novels.

Which earns a very big WHATEVER. It all boils down to:

Dear Glove:

I was right all along, and you're still wrong.

Hugs and kisses,
subtle

PS--Call 1-800-WAAmbulance if this is an emergency.

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From a long time Snape-fan since book 1 matts2068 November 21 2011, 14:56:53 UTC
Hi everyone ( ... )

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Re: From a long time Snape-fan since book 1 wobblerlorri November 21 2011, 15:46:50 UTC
Something that Snaters never acknowledge when it's brought up:

We never, ever see Snape taking the offensive when dueling, unless he's pushed to an extreme. Every time he's fighting another wizard/witch, he is using only defensive magic. Every time.

There are only TWO times in the entire series where he uses an offensive spell, and both occur in the same book -- The Half-Blood Prince.

1. He kills Dumbledore, under orders and under duress.

2. When Harry won't quit throwing offensive spells and Unforgiveables at him, and he has to finally stop Harry with a hex that flings him on the ground and separates him from his wand.

An evil Dark Magic Death Eater hamster-killing monster bad bad man who won't go on the offensive or use his so-vaunted Dark Magic to kill people who are patently far weaker than he is?

What kind of nasty nasty man is that?

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Re: From a long time Snape-fan since book 1 matts2068 November 21 2011, 16:12:40 UTC
Yes, and it's hinted at by Bellatrix that Snape stays out of battle, and since he is worried about his soul when Dumbledore asks him to kill him it is made pretty clear that he has never killed before. He probably worked as a spy and maybe a healer as a DE.

What is sad in case of the Snaters is that they didn't get the lesson told through Snape's story. While he was strong enough to love and change, there are children like him in real life, neglected and bullied who can't excape their fate because nobody is there for them and they can't find the strenght within to move forward.

Snape's past was supposed to be a messege to all the bullies reading HP, to all those people who wave their hands at the actions of the marauders saying "Boys will be boys". JKR was bullied as a child. There are lessons to be learned through her characters that a lot of people miss.

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forsnape March 1 2012, 05:54:21 UTC
VERY WELL SAID!

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