i just watched it. Did you hear me scream when I saw the words: to be continued? Season IV is impressive. Part of me marvels that the US TV execs/religious fundamentalists haven't canned it citing it as blasphemous or inappropriate or something. The other part of me, gleefully demands MORE.
The Necrophilia side of having sex with Ruby didn't occur to me -- she's not dead per se. The empty apartment analogy works.
I wondered about the knife -- your inference that the host has to die seems logical since S&D normally go for the throat. The Demon chasing them (Alastair?) seems to be arch-level. Sam had to struggle the other week to exorcise Samhain.
Yeah, I was all flaily at the end too, because I was unspoiled and didn't even know it was a two parter.
Honestly, watching the ep I didn't think of necrophilia either, but I've seen a couple of ep reactions that were all "ew!" and mentioned that besides that Sam has sex with a demon.
I don't mind the Ruby actress either. She's not great, but the negative reactions to her seem out of proportion to me. Also, I thought she had pretty hot chemistry with Sam in the seduction scene.
I wonder if the effect of the knife has to do with the origin of the demon. It had no effect on Castiel, so maybe demons that started out as fallen angels are unaffected, while demons that started out as humans get killed.
Or, it might be as you said, that it needs a killing wound to the host. That's how it worked with the Colt -- shooting possessed!John in the leg in DT didn't kill Azazel, but shooting possessed!janitor guy in the head in AHBL2 worked.
I wonder if the effect of the knife has to do with the origin of the demon. It had no effect on Castiel, so maybe demons that started out as fallen angels are unaffected, while demons that started out as humans get killed.
I agree with you. I loved this ep. I actually like the new actress playing Ruby. I liked the old one too, but this one doesn't bother me at all. The whole "It's necrophelia!" thing going around kind of baffles me but maybe that's because I come from Buffy fandom where it's a way of life - worse, the demon murdered the body they're in.
I liked the backstory we got and Sam and Ruby's relationship (not just the sexual one) speaks so much about where Sam was at that time after Dean dies. Oh Sam!
It's good to hear I'm not the only one who's okay with the new Ruby. I really liked to get some more on Sam. I enjoyed the season so far, but it was very much focused on Dean.
And yeah, the necrophilia squick here is kind of odd, I agree. I don't think I'd have even thought about it hadn't others commented.
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The Necrophilia side of having sex with Ruby didn't occur to me -- she's not dead per se. The empty apartment analogy works.
I wondered about the knife -- your inference that the host has to die seems logical since S&D normally go for the throat. The Demon chasing them (Alastair?) seems to be arch-level. Sam had to struggle the other week to exorcise Samhain.
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Honestly, watching the ep I didn't think of necrophilia either, but I've seen a couple of ep reactions that were all "ew!" and mentioned that besides that Sam has sex with a demon.
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I wonder if the effect of the knife has to do with the origin of the demon. It had no effect on Castiel, so maybe demons that started out as fallen angels are unaffected, while demons that started out as humans get killed.
Or, it might be as you said, that it needs a killing wound to the host. That's how it worked with the Colt -- shooting possessed!John in the leg in DT didn't kill Azazel, but shooting possessed!janitor guy in the head in AHBL2 worked.
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That is an interesting idea!
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I liked the backstory we got and Sam and Ruby's relationship (not just the sexual one) speaks so much about where Sam was at that time after Dean dies. Oh Sam!
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And yeah, the necrophilia squick here is kind of odd, I agree. I don't think I'd have even thought about it hadn't others commented.
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