Shocked, shocked I tell you

[rahirah]

I am watching this saga on Facebook where three people I met in BtVS fandom Back In The Day are arguing about Trump. Two of them are people I just didn't have much in common with once we drifted out of the same fandom. The third is a person I cut ruthlessly out of my life after she informed me, in 2004, that of course she'd voted to make gay

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[sueworld2003]

Dare I ask who this old fandom fool was?

[hurry_sundown]

Barb is a better person than I am, because while I might not have named names ... No, I probably would have named names.

[rahirah]

I doubt very many people around these days remember her, so not much point!

[rahirah]

Oh, she dropped out of fandom even before the show ended, and was only active in Spuffy circles so far as I know. Not likely you'd ever have heard of her.

[trepkos]

I'm always tossing up whether to feel smug or annoyed when people suddenly realise I was right about some third party years ago ...

[rahirah]

Well, I never tried to convince them of anything about her (I hoped her actions would speak for themselves) so I can't even have the satisfaction of saying I told you so. :p

[freecat15]

I'm pretty sure this person is absolutely convinced she's not racist at all, and also believes she doesn't really care if someone is gay or not. (As long as they don't want to taint the sacred bond of marriage, of course.)

Ugh indeed.

And can I just say how much I love reading of your activism? It makes me feel in a weird way a little less useless and damned to only be able to donate a little - that I at least *know* people who do something.

[rahirah]

Got it in one. When I told her I wasn't going to be her pet dyke that she could trot out to prove she wasn't prejudiced, she played the poor bewildered put upon martyr.

I don't feel like I'm doing much yet, but I keep reminding myself that this is a marathon, not a sprint.

[rebcake]

Urgh. People.

I am confident that you can turn Arizona blue!

[rahirah]

I hope so! Or at least violet!

[ayinhara]

Violet is a perfect color.

[nmcil12]

Violet will help - little by little NM turned into a Blue state and Albuquerque, especially the woman, showed their stuff when they defeated the pro life anti abortion campaign about three years ago.

It's a long haul but people have to take up the fight or they will have a lot of heart ache coming their way with the ultra right and this creepy new president and his administration.

[gillo]

I suspect I know who you mean. She deleted me not long after the election.

In theory I want to keep the few conservative friends I have, to counteract the echo-chamber effect. In practice, though, it's just so exhausting and depressing seeing them defend the indefensible.

[rahirah]

Are you thinking of O_____? They had a lot in common, but no, this was someone I first knew through BAPS.

And yeah. I don't want to live in an echo chamber, but good God, some things are not negotiable. (That person who, regardless of their gender, was mansplaining all over your FB the other day had better be an excellent friend in other respects, or I haven't a clue how you stand them.)

[gillo]

Ah. Yes, O_______ was in my thoughts. Voted Trump because of abortion. That was the last straw for me, I explained my feelings and was summarily dumped.

It's really hard when I genuinely feel Trump and his acolytes are so catastrophic for the planet, not just their own country. I am still in touch with a few conservatives from my old Compuserve days, and that's struggle enough. (Mensa folks to whom "stupid"="worthless". Hard to stomach.) (Yes, the mansplainer goes back to those days and that group. He refuses to accept autism exists, or Asperger's, which is odd, because he fits quite a few of the descriptors. He takes superb photos of Paris, though.)