good call. it seems that no matter who is writing it, a story about a woman in power is going to have some definite dominatrix undertones. i mean, as long as she's been around she's either tying someone up or getting tied up herself. Let's not forget her creator was a polyamorist, i'm sure his less than normal sexual views were thrown into the mix at least a little bit.
as far as the castration thing. i agree. and not just because i'm a guy. such acts should not be glorified. they only serve to cheapen exactly how bad the situation is. and you're right if the roles were reversed, there WOULD be an outcry. i friggin' hate double standards. new rule: if women can make jokes about castrating a man then i can make jokes about stabbing them in the ovaries. (obviously i wouldn't, but you get my point)
*Sigh.* Yeah. Wonder Woman's awkwardness as a character goes all the way back to the beginning. I'm...not much a fan of Marston's particular flavor of feminism, with that combination of worshiping females as inherently superior creatures akin to the divine, and BDSM play with his two lady friends. Heh.
yeah i'm all for equal rights for everyone, but when someone starts going "no we deserve MORE rights, because we're superior", or "because you owe us after years of oppression" that i have to draw the line. also, i'm really not into that freaky shit. i take pleasure in pleasure not pain. i know, i'm pretty vanilla.
I agree with you in that I think Wonder Woman would be much more witty than that. Given the Amazon background, I'd expect death threats more than groin threats...
Isn't it ridiculous how, when one makes a woman strong enough to be a hero, she gets reduced to a dominatrix by men who just can't subconsciously stand the idea of a strong woman? I really think it's a tragic, predictable behavior in patriarchal society. Women must always be sex objects, whether that be a submissive role or a dominating force. It all boils down to fuck, fight or flight. Sadly, most men don't think women are worthy of the later two. Whether they are aware of it or not, they fall prey to the "boys don't hit girls" paradigm or the "I'm a wimp if I run from a girl" paradigm. It's all a desperate attempt to seem macho and avoid stigma. But I digress.
Right! And the thing about the groin threat is that this is, ya know, someone going out of their way to be intentionally cruel. It makes much more sense for Wonder Woman to get things done by just killing the offender in question.
The problem, of course, is that the editors and business hotshots assume that the only way that men can approach a female character is from a necessarily explicitly sexual perspective. Women characters cannot be people first, and they're people who happen to be women (which informs some of their personal traits.) Women characters must, instead, be the result of an abstract concept of what a woman is, with specific female tropes allowed. Female tropes are almost always about sex: the slut, the ice queen, the dominatrix, the submissive, the rape victim out for sexy revenge, et cetera. We can't have women characters who have primary motivations or determinations other than sex and gender.
Because, of course, we all know that women don't care about anything else than what kind of attention they're getting from
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as far as the castration thing. i agree. and not just because i'm a guy. such acts should not be glorified. they only serve to cheapen exactly how bad the situation is. and you're right if the roles were reversed, there WOULD be an outcry. i friggin' hate double standards. new rule: if women can make jokes about castrating a man then i can make jokes about stabbing them in the ovaries. (obviously i wouldn't, but you get my point)
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...Poor genitals. :(
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yes genitals are a sensitive subject. *rimshot!*
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Isn't it ridiculous how, when one makes a woman strong enough to be a hero, she gets reduced to a dominatrix by men who just can't subconsciously stand the idea of a strong woman? I really think it's a tragic, predictable behavior in patriarchal society. Women must always be sex objects, whether that be a submissive role or a dominating force. It all boils down to fuck, fight or flight. Sadly, most men don't think women are worthy of the later two. Whether they are aware of it or not, they fall prey to the "boys don't hit girls" paradigm or the "I'm a wimp if I run from a girl" paradigm. It's all a desperate attempt to seem macho and avoid stigma. But I digress.
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The problem, of course, is that the editors and business hotshots assume that the only way that men can approach a female character is from a necessarily explicitly sexual perspective. Women characters cannot be people first, and they're people who happen to be women (which informs some of their personal traits.) Women characters must, instead, be the result of an abstract concept of what a woman is, with specific female tropes allowed. Female tropes are almost always about sex: the slut, the ice queen, the dominatrix, the submissive, the rape victim out for sexy revenge, et cetera. We can't have women characters who have primary motivations or determinations other than sex and gender.
Because, of course, we all know that women don't care about anything else than what kind of attention they're getting from ( ... )
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