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mme_hardy May 27 2011, 17:16:24 UTC
Awesome. That is all.

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mme_hardy May 27 2011, 17:40:17 UTC
Have you considered expanding this and using it as a paper in your class? I think it's awesome.

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rachelmanija May 27 2011, 17:41:56 UTC
Thanks! Maybe in grad school. The abnormal psych class doesn't require papers.

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sovay May 27 2011, 17:17:17 UTC
For your amusement and/or enlightenment, here’s Lady Percy’s complete speech, annotated with the DSM-IV criteria.

Thank you.

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oracne May 27 2011, 17:28:44 UTC
COOL.

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shadowvalkyrie May 27 2011, 17:36:40 UTC
Disregarding what it was meant to signify in the text, the description is interesting in any case, because it shows that PTSD is not a contemporary condition, reliant on our specific culture*, to occur, but apparently a more universal phenomenon.

Thank you for pointing this out!

*As I've seen postulated; iirc it had something to do with how our modern western culture distances itself from death and suffering and how we are thus unable to cope when confronted with it, or any other breach of the safety we are accustomed to. Lady Percy's description would be a good argument against that thesis.

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rachelmanija May 27 2011, 17:41:00 UTC
Are they counting "modern" as "American Civil War-era?" It was described and named back then, as "soldier's heart ( ... )

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rachelmanija May 27 2011, 18:59:18 UTC
I went to a talk on PTSD by a guy who's an expert in the field, and he had the quite radical proposal to eliminate criterion A: exposure to an extreme stressor.

Everyone in the audience went, "WTF? But that's the entire conceptual basis for the very existence of PTSD!"

He explained that the problem isn't conceptual, but has to do with insurance companies. The existence of Criterion A means that traumatized, suffering people have to prove that they were exposed to a traumatic event. Frequently they either can't prove that it happened at all (like rape) or that it was sufficiently and objectively traumatic (like your "animal slaughter" example, as people do indeed get traumatized by things that might bnot be traumatic to every person in every circumstance).

No other disorder requires proof of an experience, only proof of the illness. His solution was to eliminate the "event" criterion and go solely by symptoms.

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kateelliott May 27 2011, 17:44:27 UTC

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