Star Trek movie

May 16, 2009 12:00

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snarkyscorp May 16 2009, 20:27:17 UTC
You know, I hadn't thought about any of this until you brought it up, and I've seen the movie twice already. I mean, I loved the movie for what it was (and admittedly, I'm not a Trekkie and hadn't seen more than 5 episodes of the original series before I saw the movie), and adored the story and characters, the acting, technology, everything ( ... )

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branna May 16 2009, 20:59:08 UTC
I agree with you. Two of my main comments when I was chewing over the film later were

1) They should have had Pike's first officer be Number One or some variation thereof. It would have been a great tribute to Majel Barrett R., too, in the circs.

2) Chekov should have been replaced by a woman from Iraq, Afghanistan, or one of the various Arab countries.

Also, in this day and age, it's bizarre that that only manifestly "interracial" character we met was also interspecies.

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readsalot May 16 2009, 21:27:59 UTC
Yes! There were random female crewmembers and cadets everywhere, but they didn't get to *do* anything. I think it would have been awesome to have had Scotty or Bones be a woman. Or both!

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genarti May 18 2009, 16:43:23 UTC
Yeah -- as I said to me roommate when we were coming home from the movie, I would have liked them to have the minidresses as a formal/dress outfit, or something. A nod to the original for situations when they weren't expected to be doing anything but standing there and looking formal.

But on the bridge? On active duty? Pants, please. At the very least, leggings under a minidress-esque tunic, or something. It makes no sense for those to be their everyday wear, any more than it did in the original series.

(And, while I am totally not opposed to Spock/Uhura, I agree that I really really wish Uhura had gotten more to do once her role as Love Interest was established. Then she would have been a character who happened to be in a relationship, and not the Love Interest who happened to also be sassy and competent.)

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thomasyan May 16 2009, 22:21:20 UTC
Women still don't get to command or kick ass

At least, not on screen. I forget if they said what kind of position Kirk's mother had. In any event, this is agreement: On screen, women got to do very little.

I did enjoy the movie very much

Me, too. I saw one critic say that he thought one problem was that it showed Kirk being impulsive and violent, and that that always turned out to work, whereas the original series was more thoughtful. Since I never really followed the original, I cannot say if that is true or not, but it does seem like it could be a valid criticism.

I liked Urban's McCoy a lot, probably even more than the other characters. The actor for Pike looked familiar, but for the life of me I could not place him until I saw his name in the credits (Bruce Greenwood). I kept thinking, he looks like Sam Neill, but I don't think it's him.

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rachelmanija May 17 2009, 03:07:57 UTC
I don't think the original series was more thoughtful particularly. The Kobayashi Maru is a very resonant thing from the original, in which Kirk's attitude ("I don't believe in death, so I can escape it") is questioned more at at least one point than it is here... though maybe we were supposed to think Kirk was pretty dumb for winning a test via cheating. Though since it's basically a psych test, O guess he did reveal his psyche.

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