briskly from paris

[quick_silver_]

2 my point of view: that's an outburst of the time bomb set 50 years ago. when the open boarders weren't sided by the simultaneous cohesion policy (long term policy on integration into society for new comers). Everything was under control until the country found itself in the long recession period accompanying by stagnation in economics and state's

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[unintended_muse]

хм, действительно создается впечатление, что во Франции полным ходом идет гражданская война.
чему не может не нарадоваться общественность - каждый день по новостям репортажи чуть ли не из "горячих точек"!

[quick_silver_]

все дело в подаче информации. создание из мухи - слона. проблема безусловно существует. и ее пытаются в данный момент решить.

а российским сми выгодно освещать эту проблему в свете возможных проблем, ожидающих РФ, из-за ошибок иммиграционной политики

[bbldox]

дык нет же опровержения ситуации. поэтому журналисты и освещают как хотят...

[bbldox]

кхм. ну это ведь не только у нас такой бред рассказывают (сказал я из штатов)

[quick_silver_]

в местных новостях молчали до последнего момента, если бы я не владела русским и английским, то, узнала бы все позже

ха-ха мне здесь сказали, что US ministry of foreign affairs рекоммендовало гражданам воздержаться от поездок во францию

[zakohana]

Машка, ты - разумный человек, а у некоторых вот такая хуйня реакция случается

[quick_silver_]

ты знаешь, каждый раз, когда я сталкиваюсь в метро или на улице с человеком в арафатке у меня начинается ностальгия по сирии. очень хочу туда. вот свою арафатку в мск оставила:(
miss ya

[meshaselimovic]

Solnechko linked her post to here.
A girl from Nice I know, used to tell me all the time: 'How do you think it is in France? Just as many ghettos and gangs as in New York.'
(I'm Serbian and understand Russian but it is much easier to speak in English.)

[quick_silver_]

hem, it depends on the region you live here. all the gangs are concentrated where money is: in big megapolises. NY, Moscow etc. are just sound examples.
big cities are have absolutely the same ambiance paving the way to the clastering of society (i.e. gangs)
btw: as i was always told by the french the outpost of russian mafia in europe is based in Nice)

[meshaselimovic]

Severine, the girl from Nice, always referred to the gangs as being mostly Arab/Muslim,... As having an Arab friend whose brothers were all into some crazy sh..
Come to think of it, my Canada, in social order, resembles SFR Yugoslavia the most.

[quick_silver_]

why Yugoslavia? i heard that in Canada half of the population consists of immigrants from the former ussr countries and china.

[_flori_]

The minus for France here is that the country is very centralized. There were some steps already to decentralize, but still "Paris" has a big influence on most parts and things in the country

[quick_silver_]

i don't think that it's the french who don't want the newcomers to be integrated. may be in small towns where they will never truly accept the outsiders (ref: Dogville); the megapolises like paris are much more tolerate. the popultation of capitals is really different from the rest of the country and represents a multi-fruit cocktail where your skin, race and other stuff is less valuable then your professional skills...

[hannahvb]

Perhaps it's rather strange, but the whole thing reminds me of the '68ies.
Of course they were students who then acted and reacted, but not only students, oh no!
Paris '68 happened to be the beginning of essentially oppositional movements, not only in France, but also in the Netherlands (Maagdenhuis), Germany, England and even the USA: Movements which drove hidden groups out of the closets: women f.e (2nd wave of feminism), radical left f.e. (KON in the Netherlands, and Marxism Marxism Marxism), homo's emancipation, movements against nuclear energy centrales.
In '68 none of us perceived what was growing out of the Paris' demonstrations. Could it be this (2005) is the birth of again driving people out of their closets? Who knows?

[quick_silver_]

in 60s it was all about student riots you are right, but now the thing is different: most of the 'rebels' are youngsters under age of 18. and many of them doing it just to behave like the rest (typical strategy of tribal conformism) to my mind these riots unfortunately wont drive anybody out of their closets but make them hide deeper in their barrows