How do you open it?groovy_guavaJune 7 2007, 11:48:36 UTC
I've downloaded it, it's in pdf format and Word and Reader won't recognize it. :< It also says raw it's already being used by another user or program....
Re: FMA, what I mean is that is Edward's body, although it has come apart, never comes apart the way their mother's body does as a Homoculus (the visions of her resurrected form before she becomes a full Homoculus are horrifying) and that the female Homoculi's body are capable of physically reforming themselves in the ways that the male Homoculis' are not. When Edward "dies" in the climatic battle with Envy, he is killed through Envy's arm through his chest (and can I get an EEWWWW here?) rather than losing any more parts of his physical self.
I should say here that I have only seen the anime, so cannot speak for the manga version.
Mother>mom: ACK! My professor caught that and I forgot to edit it out. Thanks!
I felt Vampirella came out of nowhere too. I should really talk about it a little more.
First of all, I am curious as to your perception of the male gaze in conflict with shoujo manga. Is yaoi manga, or homoerotic undertones, the only instance where we see it denied or subverted? Do you think there's a possibility for a "male gaze free" manga product? (I think this sort of speculation could have a place in your conclusion.)It probably isn't the only case but for the scope of my paper I guess this is what I focused on. There were some material about shoujo-ai I didn't include because I thought it would deviate too far from my particular emphasis for the paper, but it would probably be great to footnote. Male gaze free manga products? I'm not sure what the ration of male/female artists in Japan but I think given that the most popular stories are shonen- read by both men and women- the dominant view is definitely male. This probably makes "male gaze free
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Yeah, I did leave that hanging didn't I? Mainly because I was up for 30+ hours to meet the deadline. XD
It is however a very important question. I think it provides a space for subversion for the gaze because of a reversal of gender roles but it does not totally contradict or erase it completely.
I mean for instance, the nature of the gaze is quite different. Whereas a male gaze would desire a female body represented, desire for the male body may or may not be the case in the gaze of the female.
Thank you for your comment! I'll be sure to address this in the revision.
The other interesting thing is that through history, boys often seem to be considered in the same light as women (i.e. objects of adult male lust) in many different cultures (the samurai apprentices, romans, etc.), so instead of subversion, it could be supporting the same 'male gaze?'
Yes, I agree this is related to the work! However, given my scope of time and energy I was not able to bring this in. Young boys (from what I learned in Western cultural representation) can be represented as mediating between male and female. If you've seen Donatello's David, the homoerotic nature of this statue is absolutely blatant AND it was made for a male audience. For this paper, I was limited to addressing a female audience because I was working from the limited knowledge that X had been originally published in a magazine for a female readership. But I believe male readers could desire male bodies and this could be an interesting thesis on its own.
This is a very interesting piece of work with some thought-provoking statements! Thank you for sharing it.
I do have several (critical) queries. At the moment, I'm not sure whether they arise from my lack of knowledge of your field and its conventions. I'm a historian and I stand very much in the rationalist/empiricist tradition. All I can say about my qualifications to comment on your work is that I know X extremely well, but that Levi-Strauss makes me think of jeans in the first instance! Make of that what you will. ;-)
If you are interested in my comments, I'll be happy to type them up and send them to you by email, but I wasn't sure if I should subject you to (possibly unqualified) criticism without much of an idea how the issues I see could be resolved.
Let me know if you want to discuss this (and perhaps educate me).
Hi, I got here through an old community post and I'm interested in reading your work, but the link appears to be dead now. Has the essay been re-posted somewhere else?
Could you please make the file available again? Your Sendspace link has died (not surprising after >6 months. I've been crawling backwards through MangaBlog's news, and just came across the entry mentioning your thesis. Thank you...
Hello! Directed here from your post at manga_talk, and I too am very interested in reading your paper. I have mixed feelings about CLAMP's approach to gender depictions, so I'm very intrigued by your topic. Sorry to have to ask, but could you possibly upload it once more? The two links on this page seem to have expired.
Thank you for being willing to share this with us!
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I should say here that I have only seen the anime, so cannot speak for the manga version.
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I felt Vampirella came out of nowhere too. I should really talk about it a little more.
First of all, I am curious as to your perception of the male gaze in conflict with shoujo manga. Is yaoi manga, or homoerotic undertones, the only instance where we see it denied or subverted? Do you think there's a possibility for a "male gaze free" manga product? (I think this sort of speculation could have a place in your conclusion.)It probably isn't the only case but for the scope of my paper I guess this is what I focused on. There were some material about shoujo-ai I didn't include because I thought it would deviate too far from my particular emphasis for the paper, but it would probably be great to footnote. Male gaze free manga products? I'm not sure what the ration of male/female artists in Japan but I think given that the most popular stories are shonen- read by both men and women- the dominant view is definitely male. This probably makes "male gaze free ( ... )
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It is however a very important question. I think it provides a space for subversion for the gaze because of a reversal of gender roles but it does not totally contradict or erase it completely.
I mean for instance, the nature of the gaze is quite different. Whereas a male gaze would desire a female body represented, desire for the male body may or may not be the case in the gaze of the female.
Thank you for your comment! I'll be sure to address this in the revision.
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Yes, I agree this is related to the work! However, given my scope of time and energy I was not able to bring this in. Young boys (from what I learned in Western cultural representation) can be represented as mediating between male and female. If you've seen Donatello's David, the homoerotic nature of this statue is absolutely blatant AND it was made for a male audience. For this paper, I was limited to addressing a female audience because I was working from the limited knowledge that X had been originally published in a magazine for a female readership. But I believe male readers could desire male bodies and this could be an interesting thesis on its own.
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I do have several (critical) queries. At the moment, I'm not sure whether they arise from my lack of knowledge of your field and its conventions. I'm a historian and I stand very much in the rationalist/empiricist tradition. All I can say about my qualifications to comment on your work is that I know X extremely well, but that Levi-Strauss makes me think of jeans in the first instance! Make of that what you will. ;-)
If you are interested in my comments, I'll be happy to type them up and send them to you by email, but I wasn't sure if I should subject you to (possibly unqualified) criticism without much of an idea how the issues I see could be resolved.
Let me know if you want to discuss this (and perhaps educate me).
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Thanks for the interest!
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Thank you for being willing to share this with us!
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