Comments | potter_cliche: cliche

manic1066 in potter_cliche

cliche

Jun 08, 2005 06:08

"I was raped, but you hugged me and I love you (even if you raped me when we were in school together) and I'm better so let's make love right now! Snookems' Sweetheart and Love!"

yeah okay, that pretty much covers that cliche.

potentially nsfw

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elliek_21 June 8 2005, 13:52:19 UTC

I'm sick of rapefics.

Rape ≠ Love --I don't care how many authors claim, "But, he didn't mean to! He didn't realize he was raping her!!!"

Whatever. Vomit. Back button.

straussmonster June 8 2005, 13:54:43 UTC

Quite possibly the most offensive and obnoxious cliche in the book, and it knows no boundaries of fandom.

the_gentleman June 8 2005, 14:14:41 UTC

What about "He raped me, so I raped him back, then sicced my sugar daddy on him..." Am I let off for that?

manic1066 June 8 2005, 15:09:52 UTC

As long as the characters don't call each other snookems or love, you might be okay... maybe. But if Draco's in the story? bad bad bad

the_gentleman June 8 2005, 15:25:26 UTC

Nah. Sirius/Severus. My Sirius is a very fucked up puppy, in a culture where actually being gay (as opposed to boarding school crushes) is taboo. He's got no reference to normal behaviour, Severus is the only other person who's gay, so he rapes him because he doesn't know any other way. And he certainly gets his dues, though it takes a while for him to learn his lesson. No true love for Sirius!

manic1066 June 8 2005, 15:58:48 UTC

Link Link Linky please, there's nothing better than a fucked up Sirius and Severus together.

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sookail June 8 2005, 14:33:40 UTC

Eurgh. I am so with you in hate.
Rape =/= plot device.

lls_mutant June 8 2005, 14:38:21 UTC

What's so, so frustrating is rape can be a very powerful and moving plot... if handled correctly. And come on- the Death Eaters (or at least some of them) are probably into rape. You can write a believable fic with it. But yeah. NOT like that.

::Sigh::

And as for the Fountainhead and Ayn Rand... it really is the one part of the books that truly disturbs me. LOVE them, but yeah. EVERY single time there's a first sexual encounter, it's a near rape. But it's usually the woman setting it up that way. It's very, very strange.

lizardlaugh June 8 2005, 16:15:26 UTC

dude, so with you. And I LOVE Ayn Rand and I don't care how uncool or politically incorrect that is. I think what you have to keep in mind is that it was her particular sexual fantasy and psychosexual orientation (as is the case with the folks writing rapefic). The other thing that drives me nuts about Rand and romance in her books is the love at first sight deal... but that's how it was with her husband.

As for rapefic in general... I actually understand it. I understand the fantasy of being taken and owned, of sexual surrender, not being really in control and all of that. I understand it, but I don't like it in fiction because that is NOT how it EVER happens in real life. EVAR.

stasia June 8 2005, 16:45:26 UTC

I've always read Ayn Rand's sex stuff as un-realised BDSM. There's stuff in Atlas Shrugged that's *clearly* the D part of it...

Stasia

lls_mutant June 8 2005, 17:31:13 UTC

Yup, yup on Ayn Rand. (And the love at first site thing drives me nuts too, but I guess I can't talk since I always do the friends-to-lovers thing ( ... )