Some Cliches About Potterverse Mpreg

[gehayi]

This is expanded from a comment of mine over at fanficrants.

Comments

[divinereverie]

Ok, first off, MPreg is something left to the masters, like Lexin.

All this MPreg is fandom's way of unconciously or conciously, if you think about it, forcing the gay relationship into the stereotypical Butch/Femme heterosexual based roles. It's not about who tops being the "man" and it's not about who bottoms being the "woman." Stop trying to place people into those roles!

Another thing about MPreg. If two men want to have a baby, don't you think they do it like a couple of normal gay men in our world do it? HELLO -- Surrogate parents!

Or even magical wombs. You'd think that if magical child could grow in a man's stomach, one could concievably grow in a magical -- though artificial -- womb in a ward at St. Mungos.

[divinereverie]

Oh, don't be! Your MPreg, with the exception of a few others, are the only ones I've tolerated.

I didn't mean master of MPreg, however. *g*

[mafdet]

I read the sweetest little Snape/Lupin ficlet where the boys had a daughter, but she was conceived with Tonks as the surrogate mother. Then Tonks was married to Bill, so he became "Uncle Bill." Which, IME, is much more true to real life and how real gay male couples have children.

I have absolutely no objection to any Potterverse gay male couple wanting a family and having children. But I wish more authors would handle it like this author did and have the men adopt a child or use a surrogate mother. NOT Mpreg.

[divinereverie]

I loved that :) violet_quill wrote it.

[fiatincantatum]

Butch/Femme =/= heterosexual

[fiatincantatum]

(Granted, it's a whole different argument, but they're not the same thing at all!)

[divinereverie]

They're not heterosexual roles, they're stereotypes of homosexual relationships for people trying to apply heterosexual roles to homosexual relationships. It's trying to place one partner as the "man" in the relationship and one partner as the "woman" and MPreg just exaggerates and purpetuates them.

[fiatincantatum]

Well, this isn't the place to argue about it, but no, they're not "stereotypes of homosexual relationships for people trying to apply heterosexual roles to homosexual relationships."

Granted, they are used that way by the ignorant, but that's not what they are.

[divinereverie]

Well, being such a person who would be in the community to be labeled one or the other and having no wish to label myself using those words, I tend to view them just as stereotypical ways to represent traditional gender roles.

[fiatincantatum]

Also being a person in the community and quite pleased with my femme identity, I can say that labels are not the same thing as identities.

Identities are what you find inside yourself.

Labels are what other people put onto you.

[divinereverie]

Yes, but sadly, outside the community, I've met more people who believe identity = label. So this femme would rather not.

[fiatincantatum]

That's entirely understandable. I'm old enough, cranky enough and established enough that I can get away with it (and I do my own plumbing, too *G*)