Clinton is getting more tiresome with each passing week. The gas tax holiday proposal is a shameless pander.
The only way Clinton gets the nomination right now is to steal it at the convention -- and that will do irreparable damage to the Dems for a generation.
But, yeah, you know, we need Hillary, because she's a fighter.
OK, I take it back: The unnamed Obama supporter is ... drumroll ... Tony Jackson. It was you, my good friend, who said Obama should drop out. And you gave a nice line of reasoning for it, only some of which I put in my post above
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Read carefully, David, your post from the unashamedly pro-Obam site, DailyKos (which I used to read regularly, but since they became campaigners for Obama, only occassionally). Read again, my friend. That diary entry focuses on one year of their Senate history, 2007. Yes, the year he was beginning his run for President, Obama started introducing (not passing all of) the bills he thought would look ... helpful ... in a campaign
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>> Oh, and calling her 30+ year marriage a "hanging out" to eventually win the presidency is just ... lame.
That's not at all what I said. I said that people claim that that is experience. Which it is not.
As for "being in politics longer"? Uh.. she said it herself in the comment that McCain has a lifetime of experience, she has a lifetime of experience, and Obama "has a speech". So, know your candidate.
I don't think she's smarter. It's a judgment call. I think she's craftier, but I don't trust her.
Quote: "If she has a genius, it is that she knows to hang with the powerful until it's safe to bare her fangs."
Also: I said that she was in politics longer AND had a more distinguished record of moving things forward. Obama ... well, he has a speech. A dozen speeches. And some election-year bills introduced.
I don't know how someone can listen to Clinton and Obama answer the same question --- on, say, nuclear proliferation ---- and not conclude that Hilary is simpyl more knowledgeable about most pressing national issues than Obama.
Perhaps "smarter" wasn't the precise word. But " "knowledgeable" is.
Remember, also, that "your girl" is a liar, who claimed that she ran through sniper fire in Bosnia, which is true, if you consider an eight-year-old girl reading poetry to be sniper fire.
This is also a candidate who bragged four months before Super Tuesday that the race would be over by the magic day, has blown through $100 million, is currently stiffing a number of small businesses who helped her with campaign, and had to publicly fire top-level campaign managers and strategists -- picked for loyalty's sake rather than competence and vision -- midway through the campaign.
This is your genius? God help us if she steals the nomination.
The sniper fire thing was ... regrettable. And disheartening to me, a Hilary fan. I can't argue with that. (Though I could point out that Obama has told his fair share of whoppers recently, not the least of which is this notion that he was unaware of Rev. Wright's cuckoo politics until he saw them on the news a few weeks ago.)
So Hilary dumped campaign advisors. That happens ALL THE TIME in politics, and it's not a sign that she's a bad candidate, merely that her strategists weren't up to par, given this election at this time.
Also, define "the end." If she's still down in pledged delegates, the popular vote, and Obama has enough superdelegates to hit 2024 ... does she THEN give up -- or does she go with the nuclear option at the convention? I think that'll be the supreme test of whether she's in it for the party or for herself and her Lady Macbeth-level ambition.
Again, I don't buy into this notion that if Hilary sees this through to the convention and urges the superdelegates to lean her way that she is somehow destroying the Democratic party in this general election. In fact, I think we could choose our candidate in late October and Democrats would STILL come together, because they loathe Bush and McCain that much.
Lemme ask you this: If the tables were reversed --- that is, if Obama trailed Hilary in pledged delegates and popular vote by the same margin she currently trails him --- would you be advocating that Obama drop out? I have my doubts. Because Obama has somehow convinced you, through his speechifying, that he would be a better Chief Executive of the federal government.
You've drunk the Kool-aid, and in two years, when King Obama hasn't revolutionized Washington the way he promises to, I wonder what song you'll be singing then. Hrmmmm...
>> if Obama trailed Hilary in pledged delegates and popular vote by the same margin she currently trails him --- would you be advocating that Obama drop out?
Yes. Absolutely.
And ya know what? He would drop out. Don't roll your eyes. You know he would.
The only way Clinton gets the nomination right now is to steal it at the convention -- and that will do irreparable damage to the Dems for a generation.
But, yeah, you know, we need Hillary, because she's a fighter.
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That's not at all what I said. I said that people claim that that is experience. Which it is not.
As for "being in politics longer"? Uh.. she said it herself in the comment that McCain has a lifetime of experience, she has a lifetime of experience, and Obama "has a speech". So, know your candidate.
I don't think she's smarter. It's a judgment call. I think she's craftier, but I don't trust her.
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Also: I said that she was in politics longer AND had a more distinguished record of moving things forward. Obama ... well, he has a speech. A dozen speeches. And some election-year bills introduced.
I don't know how someone can listen to Clinton and Obama answer the same question --- on, say, nuclear proliferation ---- and not conclude that Hilary is simpyl more knowledgeable about most pressing national issues than Obama.
Perhaps "smarter" wasn't the precise word. But "
"knowledgeable" is.
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This is also a candidate who bragged four months before Super Tuesday that the race would be over by the magic day, has blown through $100 million, is currently stiffing a number of small businesses who helped her with campaign, and had to publicly fire top-level campaign managers and strategists -- picked for loyalty's sake rather than competence and vision -- midway through the campaign.
This is your genius? God help us if she steals the nomination.
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So Hilary dumped campaign advisors. That happens ALL THE TIME in politics, and it's not a sign that she's a bad candidate, merely that her strategists weren't up to par, given this election at this time.
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Lemme ask you this: If the tables were reversed --- that is, if Obama trailed Hilary in pledged delegates and popular vote by the same margin she currently trails him --- would you be advocating that Obama drop out? I have my doubts. Because Obama has somehow convinced you, through his speechifying, that he would be a better Chief Executive of the federal government.
You've drunk the Kool-aid, and in two years, when King Obama hasn't revolutionized Washington the way he promises to, I wonder what song you'll be singing then. Hrmmmm...
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Yes. Absolutely.
And ya know what? He would drop out. Don't roll your eyes. You know he would.
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