i speculate on how much your average EDL activist knows of his or her genetic history? Or the history of the nation and culture he or she is claiming to represent and defend?
But that's politics. Right-wing populists hijacking the debate with wrongly intuited supposedly common-sensical notions of floods of immigrants disrupting our labour markets and having it off with our wives and daughters is historically repetitive: and inevitably proved wrong in one generation. Mainly because English men and women will generally sleep with anyone who says yes: it being such an unusual event.
Islamic immigrants do appear to be more clannish than most waves of immigrants we have had, and they are really pretty Puritanical too. So they remain alien to some English people. And then some of us lose a sense of proportion.
I just did a quick look and yeah, figures seem to hover between 30000 and 40000/yr in the United States. UK has 1/5th of the population, but according to Wikipedia the number of deaths in 2012 was 2175.
And for the terrorism statistic, there's this: "Five people per year are killed by bee or wasp stings, the report said, exactly the same amount, on average, of terrorist actions in the past decade." The article is from three years ago, but I doubt any incidents in the past three years would appreciably alter that figure, much less bump it anywhere close to the traffic one.
So, either it's not as big of an imminent threat as the cartoon suggests, or British law enforcement -is- rather on top of things. Or a combination of the two.
Muslims Against Crusades are probably amongst the most notorious extremist Muslim protesters. Vile beliefs expressed loudly, but no guns and I've never seen much evidence of violence. Most of the strong sentiment against them comes from them burning poppies on remembrance day. Declared a criminal organisation a number of years ago.
If anything, these groups are less tolerated than I'd like.
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Really???
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But that's politics. Right-wing populists hijacking the debate with wrongly intuited supposedly common-sensical notions of floods of immigrants disrupting our labour markets and having it off with our wives and daughters is historically repetitive: and inevitably proved wrong in one generation. Mainly because English men and women will generally sleep with anyone who says yes: it being such an unusual event.
Islamic immigrants do appear to be more clannish than most waves of immigrants we have had, and they are really pretty Puritanical too. So they remain alien to some English people. And then some of us lose a sense of proportion.
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...in modern times, anyway.
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And for the terrorism statistic, there's this: "Five people per year are killed by bee or wasp stings, the report said, exactly the same amount, on average, of terrorist actions in the past decade." The article is from three years ago, but I doubt any incidents in the past three years would appreciably alter that figure, much less bump it anywhere close to the traffic one.
So, either it's not as big of an imminent threat as the cartoon suggests, or British law enforcement -is- rather on top of things. Or a combination of the two.
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Even if one understands that bus-lanes are, objectively speaking, good things: unlike religious fundamentalists and the EDL.
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I don't know what the EDL folks are drinking, but keep it the hell away from me.
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If anything, these groups are less tolerated than I'd like.
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