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angelcerv25 August 18 2014, 18:56:30 UTC
Half this community's going "who's that?"

LOL

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new_wave_witch August 18 2014, 19:25:32 UTC
Everybody knows Mr Rogers!

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moonshaz August 18 2014, 21:31:43 UTC
I love this man.

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telemann August 18 2014, 21:39:19 UTC
Yeah, he is all kinds of awesomeness.

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musicpsych August 18 2014, 21:56:22 UTC
Devil's advocate:

Is it really 1:1 for job creation though? Could Carter have benefited from programs passed by his predecessors, while Reagan and Bush's job creation rates were hurt by programs passed by their predecessors?

Also, it's easier to sustain gains over 4 years than over 8, the latter of which is more likely to include more of the natural rise and fall of an economic cycle.

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telemann August 18 2014, 22:44:15 UTC
Is it really 1:1 for job creation though.

Seems so.

Could Carter have benefited from programs passed by his predecessors

Seems unlikely, given that Ford was a fiscal conservative who wanted to reign in Federal spending by using austerity, and was opposed to stimulus spending to get the economy to grow.

Your questions are also interesting, because Carter's economic policies were so heavily criticized during the 1980 election, most notably by the Reagan campaign; and certainly the country at the time blamed Carter for the inflation issue, which dated back to the Johnson administration, and certainly Reagan wasn't asking your questions. Bush never blamed Ronald Reagan for his economic troubles that I recall; and was also a one term president like Carter, so all things being equal, your point about a one term president having it easier than a two term seems to be a draw, at least for President Bush Sr.

The University of Nebraska economics dept has a great article that will likely answer a lot of your questions: "Fiscal Policy, ... )

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fizzyland August 19 2014, 00:21:04 UTC
And wasn't it really the hostage situation that doomed Carter?

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telemann August 19 2014, 16:37:39 UTC
Yeah I think so. The polling was pretty close until the debate aired. Regan was making some serious fuck-ups regarding race (he had a campaign speech in Missouri not far from where some civil rights workers were murdered, and Reagan made a speech supporting "states' rights ( ... )

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joshthevegan August 18 2014, 23:24:02 UTC
I never understood why liberals felt the need to be embarrassed by Jimmy Carter. That guy is the fucking greatest.

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peristaltor August 20 2014, 01:08:51 UTC
The press were not kind to the man when he was President. I lived through the bullshit. Hell, I bought it and voted Reagan (when I could).

The press tend to gravitate toward people who promise sunshine and roses, even in winter.

And had GHW and his spook cronies not committed treason, Carter might very well have won 1980. It was a close election (made less close by the press on election night, but that's another story).

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jom_art August 19 2014, 01:25:39 UTC
he's definitely most misunderstood one, then.

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the_rukh August 20 2014, 01:47:44 UTC
The US political landscape is a history of the decent being run over by the ones willing to do things people shouldn't be willing to do. The fact is Carter just didn't play dirty, and in politics, fighting with one hand behind your back doesn't make you heroic because your reputation is the very thing you're fighting for.

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