You ever experience one of those epiphany/eureaka life-changing and/or life-formative moments and then not be sure, afterwards, just what the hell it was that changed, at least not at first
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So ... I'm guessing you liked it? That's wonderful. Glad to hear something is going so right for you!
I suppose I shall have to watch it when it comes out on DVD, although I'll probably want to read the original graphic novel first.
Matthew Stover and, to a slightly lesser extent, George R. R. Martin were another, because they will write to make the reader care for or at least understand the characters even if they are the most despicable creatures to've ever crawled out into the light of day, Yeah, well, I have noticed though that neither Stover more Martin can quite keep themselves from writing completely evil villains as well. Cases in point: Berne from Heroes Die and Gregor Clegane, respectively. Stover does better with Berne than most one-dimensional monsters in fiction, and Clegane is a relatively minor character, but still.
Aliens who're actually alien? I suppose I shall have to check Cherryh out one of these days, I'll have to check her books out. (Too bad they aren't on audiocassette.)
The movie reminded me of V for Vendetta, which I really enjoyed, despite the fact that it's fairly darn grim and violent. I actually cringed more than once during the movie, but it reminded me a lot of the way I cringe when I read Stover and Martin - the violence somehow came across less as stylized (despite the fact that a lot of it is very stylized, visually speaking) and more hyper-real, if that makes any kind of sense.
Erhm, warning for lots of violence, politics, grimness in general, and humanity being, well, humanity, if you do, okay?
*Nods* They like to blur those lines between hero and villian, good and evil, and make everyone first and foremost human, which surprisingly few other writers really do. I think it's why I like them so much, even though they tend to make my head hurt and my stomach tie itself into all kinds of knots. There are never any one-dimensional, one-note, tin-type stereotype/archetype characters in their work.
Those Foreigner books of hers are some of the best books I've read when it comes to fleshing
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V for Vendetta *rubs chin* the main character in that one rather put me off, and my sister was absolutely disgusted by the sexual politics as I recall. However, I'm guessing that's not what you're referring to exactly, (at least, I hope not).
I know what you mean about the violence in Stover and Martin seeming more visceral and hyper-real than most. And the part about being simultaneously drawn in and repulsed by it.
By "humanity being, well, humanity" I assume you mean there's a lot of the tragic side of Terry Pratchett's (and Neil Gaiman's) observation that: "Most of the great triumphs and tragedies of history are caused, not by people being fundamentally good or fundamentally bad, but by people being fundamentally people." I'll consider myself duly warned.
There are never any one-dimensional, one-note, tin-type stereotype/archetype characters in their work.Um, what I was saying just there was that I feel like a few characters (e.g. Berne and Sandor Clegane) in their works are exactly that, and they're especially jarring because
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I suppose I shall have to watch it when it comes out on DVD, although I'll probably want to read the original graphic novel first.
Matthew Stover and, to a slightly lesser extent, George R. R. Martin were another, because they will write to make the reader care for or at least understand the characters even if they are the most despicable creatures to've ever crawled out into the light of day,
Yeah, well, I have noticed though that neither Stover more Martin can quite keep themselves from writing completely evil villains as well. Cases in point: Berne from Heroes Die and Gregor Clegane, respectively. Stover does better with Berne than most one-dimensional monsters in fiction, and Clegane is a relatively minor character, but still.
Aliens who're actually alien? I suppose I shall have to check Cherryh out one of these days, I'll have to check her books out. (Too bad they aren't on audiocassette.)
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Erhm, warning for lots of violence, politics, grimness in general, and humanity being, well, humanity, if you do, okay?
*Nods* They like to blur those lines between hero and villian, good and evil, and make everyone first and foremost human, which surprisingly few other writers really do. I think it's why I like them so much, even though they tend to make my head hurt and my stomach tie itself into all kinds of knots. There are never any one-dimensional, one-note, tin-type stereotype/archetype characters in their work.
Those Foreigner books of hers are some of the best books I've read when it comes to fleshing ( ... )
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I know what you mean about the violence in Stover and Martin seeming more visceral and hyper-real than most. And the part about being simultaneously drawn in and repulsed by it.
By "humanity being, well, humanity" I assume you mean there's a lot of the tragic side of Terry Pratchett's (and Neil Gaiman's) observation that: "Most of the great triumphs and tragedies of history are caused, not by people being fundamentally good or fundamentally bad, but by people being fundamentally people." I'll consider myself duly warned.
There are never any one-dimensional, one-note, tin-type stereotype/archetype characters in their work.Um, what I was saying just there was that I feel like a few characters (e.g. Berne and Sandor Clegane) in their works are exactly that, and they're especially jarring because ( ... )
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