As much as I really appreciate Sam's forgiving and empathetic nature, I'm not thrilled that Gadreel's possession has suddenly been downgraded to shared housing. It's just too big an opportunity for Dean to say "Hey you said it was like shared housing, not that big a deal and Kevin's cool with being dead, so what's the problem. Stop being a little bitch and move on already', because Dean thinks that way.
I'd share that concern if Sam had been talking to Gadreel or Dean, I think, but that's not really what was going on here? Sam is talking to Cas, trying to be as precise about Gadreel as he can because it is tactically critical for Cas to understand Gadreel as well as possible. If he overstated Gadreel's hostility and Cas had approached Gadreel on that level, they might have lost an extremely valuable asset. That's not forgiveness or the compassionate type of empathy, it's just being smart and not prioritizing his emotions over the goal they both want to accomplish. I admire Sam here, but not really for reasons that have anything to do with Gadreel.
Anyway, even if Dean had heard it, he thinks that way anyway, as do the fans who are defending his behavior.
Metatron likely is deliberately surrounding himself with Heaven’s outcasts. They’re the ones he feels most confident that he can string along and render dependent on him.
YES. My first thought upon seeing the scenes with Ezra was, "wow, this guy's like Metatron's Metatron."
Sam, meanwhile, badly wants for the blade to be the problem, in the way he wanted Benny to be the problem last season
Right? And, it kills me to watch Sam scrambling to put a name and cause to his brother's behaviour, it really does. I believe this also strikes at the root of fandom's discontent with the MoC storyline: "Dean isn't really behaving all that different." That, I believe, is the whole point.
Those early episodes of the season were great with themes and foreshadowing.
it kills me to watch Sam scrambling to put a name and cause to his brother's behaviour, it really does.
It's a really hard process. I think he's having a tougher time than Cas did wrt Naomi last season, because there's nobody else in his life who's going through it with him, and no scary up-or-down violation to pinpoint (to his mind, anyway). But he's getting there.
I believe this also strikes at the root of fandom's discontent with the MoC storyline: "Dean isn't really behaving all that different." That, I believe, is the whole point.
YUP. I kind of get the idea that after the reveal in S5 that they had descended from Cain and Abel, fandom conventional wisdom assigned Dean the Good Brother role of Abel (even though the Cain-Michael connection was pretty clear if you actually knew the stories being evoked), and so for Dean to be connected with Cain at all fucks with people; for him to fit the role so smoothly is throwing people for a loop. (GOOD.)
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Ooh, interesting thought. I hadn't considered that.
And nice observations on the title. All of the above!
I liked a lot of this ep. even if not entirely satisfying, there was enough there to keep me hopeful for the next 2.
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Sam does tend to displace his issues with Dean. It's understandable, but not doing him any favors.
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Anyway, even if Dean had heard it, he thinks that way anyway, as do the fans who are defending his behavior.
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Metatron likely is deliberately surrounding himself with Heaven’s outcasts. They’re the ones he feels most confident that he can string along and render dependent on him.
YES. My first thought upon seeing the scenes with Ezra was, "wow, this guy's like Metatron's Metatron."
Sam, meanwhile, badly wants for the blade to be the problem, in the way he wanted Benny to be the problem last season
Right? And, it kills me to watch Sam scrambling to put a name and cause to his brother's behaviour, it really does. I believe this also strikes at the root of fandom's discontent with the MoC storyline: "Dean isn't really behaving all that different." That, I believe, is the whole point.
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it kills me to watch Sam scrambling to put a name and cause to his brother's behaviour, it really does.
It's a really hard process. I think he's having a tougher time than Cas did wrt Naomi last season, because there's nobody else in his life who's going through it with him, and no scary up-or-down violation to pinpoint (to his mind, anyway). But he's getting there.
I believe this also strikes at the root of fandom's discontent with the MoC storyline: "Dean isn't really behaving all that different." That, I believe, is the whole point.
YUP. I kind of get the idea that after the reveal in S5 that they had descended from Cain and Abel, fandom conventional wisdom assigned Dean the Good Brother role of Abel (even though the Cain-Michael connection was pretty clear if you actually knew the stories being evoked), and so for Dean to be connected with Cain at all fucks with people; for him to fit the role so smoothly is throwing people for a loop. (GOOD.)
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