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Sep 14, 2012 20:37

Who wants to talk to me about the first four seasons of Breaking Bad? EVERYONE, THAT'S WHO!

It’s hard to stick with (I’ve been “watching” BB since it first went on Netflix Instant months ago) because ugh, as much as I can watch violence of much greater magnitude if it’s clearly fantasy, it’s still hard for me to distance myself from realistic human ( Read more... )

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empresspatti September 15 2012, 00:57:11 UTC
I can't begin to tell you how much I enjoyed your meta.

I love BB, but am always at least a season behind and have seen several out of order, so although I know what happens (& blown away!), I think I wasn't able to appreciate how well it builds.

Also like how it constantly surprises me. Good tv.

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pocochina September 15 2012, 01:15:47 UTC
Hi there, I'm glad you enjoyed!

This is one of those shows I've been planning to watch for so long and so managed to stay almost completely spoiler-free, and I'm really, really glad of that. Individual episodes are always good, too, but yeah, it's very impressively done as a whole.

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empresspatti September 15 2012, 16:03:06 UTC
I've never been spoiler free, but don't care anyway. I figure life is too short to give even the best tv too much weight BUIT - I'm planning on really enjoying the end of the series, however it plays out.

"Hank" had an interview on NPR (I think This American Life) and he was really interesting. You mihgt enjoy the podcast.

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waltzmatildah September 15 2012, 00:59:49 UTC
Breaking Bad is the best show to have ever flashed before my eyeballs.

True story.

The end.

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pocochina September 15 2012, 01:13:37 UTC
IT'S SO GOOD.

I feel like a lot of times shows that are this dark are so gratuitous and manipulative with it? Like it's trying to distract and impress me with the Unflinching Bleakness (TM) and using it as a distraction from mediocre storytelling. I never, ever feel that way with Breaking Bad. I think the ugliness is used exactly right, and that's really tough to do.

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waltzmatildah September 15 2012, 01:18:32 UTC
There is so much meta and flail and squee and OMGWHATISBREATHING? at my journal for this show... but you should wait if you want to check it out because I've seen all currently aired episodes.

Everything about it is so refreshingly freaking HONEST that I just can't even...

*thud*

I think the ugliness is used exactly right... I'd go so far as to say the ugliness is pretty much the whole, entire point.

Except for this, this is not ugly, it's... I have no idea what it is! Loltastic perfection perhaps?!


... )

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pocochina September 15 2012, 02:15:48 UTC
AWWWW, GALE. The one character even sweeter and more vulnerable than Jesse! poor guy.

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pocochina September 15 2012, 02:00:04 UTC
Yeah, it's really impressive, in such an affecting, draining way. Normally when I get into something I want to shotgun it. But this, even as I obviously *really* enjoyed it, I found hard to watch more than a couple of episodes a week.

or fond of Mike

Mike is one of the show's most tragic characters to me, I think. Because you can tell he was someone who did want to do the right thing, for so long, and just completely lost all hope and let himself dissolve into the violence. I don't know that I'd say I like him, but I find him very real and sad.

I feel like almost all female characters I know at least have some traits that make them easier for the audience to swallow by fitting into the image of What Women Should Be at least in some respects, even if they are also realistically flawed....Skyler doesn't exist FOR anyone's benefit, she just IS.yes! And I feel like, even when you do get a character like Skylar who doesn't really perform that way, she still ends up getting stuck with "insecurity" or some such - she really WANTS to be ( ... )

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pocochina September 15 2012, 02:29:04 UTC
(this is a slightly different case but I think one of the reasons why Downton Abbey really emphasized Mary's devotion to nursing Matthew in S2 was because she got so much flack for hesitating over whether or not to marry him in S1. It felt like a ploy to make her more likeable to the audience, by saying, "Look, her love for Matthew is really real! See? Forgive her for S1, now, please." IDK, maybe I'm overthinking it, but it makes me :( TBH.)

I HATED it. I still haven't seen the S2 finale. I'm so pissed at the idea that she "needed" softening, because she was somehow not a perfect character exactly as she was. ugh, favorite.

(which happens again when her lawyer tells her that it's a "no-brainer" for Skyler to pack up and divorce Walt ASAP, and that this is the best thing for the kids, too, and Skyler is tempted by the money--and, I think, by her desire to control the situation--to stay.)Right. Or at least, think she was in control. Because if she acts in the way she knows the situation merits, that means admitting how bad it really ( ... )

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goldenusagi September 15 2012, 04:59:33 UTC
Officially I abhor mass murder but that stunt with the cartel was badass.

Th dude POISONED HIMSELF just to kill everyone else, threw up the poison, but had a doctor standing by in the middle of the desert JUST IN CASE. He is the definition of badass. And ruthless, and cunning, and playing the long game.

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pocochina September 15 2012, 21:10:09 UTC
YES. And I loved that Walt learned Gustavo's game, and the guy himself, well enough to find and exploit his Achilles' heel of the revenge quest.

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eowyn_315 September 15 2012, 18:36:02 UTC
Who wants to talk to me about the first four seasons of Breaking Bad?

ME ME ME ME!!!

It's kind of funny to me that you found BB hard to stick with, because this was one of those shows where I started out watching it like a totally normal human being, and gradually started going faster and faster until I was mainlining episodes one after another because I couldn't pull myself away.

I think the pacing of it is part of what pulls me in? It starts out almost agonizingly slow - not because it's boring at all, but because it's just so dedicated to the little moments, the details and quirks of reality that most fiction just skims over because it's not exciting to watch your characters fumbling through the practicalities of their situation. It's kind of like Mad Men in that sense where you watch an episode and feel like nothing really happened and yet it was the most incredible hour of television. Except that with BB, the stakes are a lot higher, so I have that need to know what happens next that makes it hard to stop watching, even while ( ... )

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pocochina September 15 2012, 21:21:50 UTC
Agreed, the pacing is phenomenal.

I kind of LOVE this, even though it makes me uncomfortable? Because it's such a deliberate subversion - you usually go into a show expecting to like and sympathize with the protagonist, and then it's kind of uncomfortable when you get a truly unlikable character that challenges all your protagonist privilege-induced instincts. But we're so plainly encouraged to loathe Walt - that's the entire point of his character arc - that it's the genuinely sympathetic moments that catch you off-guard.

ooooh, yes, exactly.

aw, I would love to read your thoughts about Jesse.

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