some top fives!

May 25, 2011 18:22

So I started this in a post that is locked way the hell down because it was me WHINING EVEN MORE THAN USUAL but: Ask me about my fannish top fives! Any top fives. At least one other post is forthcoming.
top five episodes overall )

bsg: laura roslin is my favorite, btvs/ats, btvs/ats: wwp is my boy, me me me, dollhouse

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sunclouds33 May 25 2011, 22:36:05 UTC
Yay for all of the Wesley love! And my top five television episodes include Two Cathedrals and Surprise/Innocence too! No doubt about it.

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pocochina May 25 2011, 23:00:04 UTC
oh my goodness, Wesley, he's on of my favorite things about the ME-verse.

AND WORD TWO CATHEDRALS. Like, DID HE JUST THROW DOWN WITH GOD? OH YES HE DID. It never gets old.

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local_max May 25 2011, 22:43:45 UTC
VILLAINS LOVE <3 <3 <3

love for everything else too obviously but I am leaving the house now so

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pocochina May 25 2011, 23:01:59 UTC
I KNOW, RIGHT? fabulous.

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local_max May 26 2011, 12:37:33 UTC
OK MOAR

The reason I mentioned Villains is because no one puts that in their top ten or top five. No one does. SRSLY. I don't even, but that's more because I tell myself I shouldn't. But it clearly is near the top of my favourites. "Just a tiny piece of metal." "Buffy, hey." *dies*

Man on the Street is seriously seriously.

I haven't seen Tracy Does Conan. I have issues with 30 Rock, but I will seek this one out.

33!!! It is the series encapsulated in a way -- but most of the good, none of the bad.

Obviously FFL, Hush, S/I. CHOSEN I have taken a long time to love but you're helping. (I do love it, but not in a top five sort of way, but WHO KNOWS.)

The Trial/Reunion/Redefinition!!!

OH GOD WES IN LINEAGE AGHHHHHH.

Claire/Topher is the best scene. No qualifiers.

I think I'm done.

/incoherent

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pocochina May 26 2011, 17:03:47 UTC
WHATEVER, there is no shouldn't! I am totally with you on Dark Willow being fantastic. I think those spots 4 and 5 might change around from day to day - I didn't want to put Lovers Walk and FFL, though I love them both about the same; same with Passion and S/I - but it's a fantastic representation of what I enjoy most about the series. AND I AM HERE TO ENABLE THE CHOSEN LOVE.

I don't know why I haven't really thought much about Lineage in context of Ted? But it's an interesting comparison, both in-universe and in how we talk about those episodes. hmmmm

ha yes 30 Rock issues are WELL EARNED but this is one of the first few episodes of the first season, which I am not even going to try to think how many times I have watched.

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nicole_anell May 25 2011, 23:09:55 UTC
The Trial/Reunion/Redefinition
AAAAH YES. But mostly the last two because Darla and Drusilla. DARLA AND DRUSILLA. <3 Such a fabulous arc.

Also, it makes me happy to see your love of "Chosen". :) Buffy season seven gets put down a lot (and for some deserved reasons) but on an abstract thematic level I love what they were doing there so much.

You like your Uncle Wes
*incoherent mess*

Edit: Oh, and as for Dollhouse, I love your #1 (and the Perrin half of your #2 - I was furious about Boyd though). Claaaaaire. That scene with Topher is so great.

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pocochina May 26 2011, 01:52:13 UTC
OH MY GOD, DARLA AND DRU.

Yeah, my favorite Buffy is S2, but I have the late season love in a big way. Chosen is how it's gotta be. The Gift would've been the most depressing ending ever (WELL SECOND MOST DEPRESSING LOLOL *glare*), not because she dies, but because it ends with that cycle of isolation and pain and early ugly death starting over for some girl whose name we don't even hear. Structural change, relationships between people with names and futures, something vaguely resembling hope - that is what I want.

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ever_neutral May 25 2011, 23:16:12 UTC
I LOVE EVERYTHING YOU CHOOSE TO BE.

I love so much that the series made it clear that power isn't her problem, so much as being forced to be defined by that power and channel it in one way. Power itself isn't about right or wrong. Buffy's problems aren't from having Slayer power, they're from being the only thing between the world and its total destruction

THANK YOU.

FAITH: You okay?
WES: Five by five.

SOBBING AND UNASHAMED OF IT.

1. The Claire/Topher confrontation in Vows. Aren't you the Lord my God?

holy mother of YES.

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pocochina May 26 2011, 01:46:20 UTC
(So, gmail thinks I posted this and LJ thinks I didn't, but whatever, I'll clean it up later.)

AND, OKAY. BECAUSE WE APPRECIATE FAITH SO MUCH AS IS RIGHT AND PROPER. Faith and Chosen, yes? Because she's the one that opens the door to that idea that the Slayer doesn't have to do it. Kendra was an anomaly, but she was indoctrinated and didn't question it.

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ever_neutral May 26 2011, 10:05:48 UTC
UM, YES? YES YES AND SOME MORE YES.

my favourite girls, smashing the fucking system. <33333

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angearia May 26 2011, 01:18:34 UTC
YES. Can I post your Chosen thoughts on my tumblr? Because you vocalized an important point that I've believed in for a while now: Buffy sharing her power wasn't about sharing a burden, it was about undoing the injustice. Spike with a chip in his head was killing him, the Potentials with their Shadowmen-enforced leashes were dying because their power had been denied them, that potential power that made them targets in the first place ( ... )

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pocochina May 26 2011, 01:50:28 UTC
sure thing! I'm flattered.

Caveat: I do have issues with all the Potentials Buffy didn't consult about unchaining their power (it's always about chains, chained to the dirt), but it was end-of-the-world circumstances so. It makes it a not-perfect solution, but I think it was a necessary one.

I'm iffy on that too, but I have a potential (HAHAHA) reading that works as well as anything in S7, so I'm going with it. I think we see Get It Done specifically for a couple of reasons - the Shadow Men's spell could not be more different from Willow's. Made of light, not darkness; it's a position of potential submission to Kennedy - heh, are you ready to kill me? - rather than an aggressive show of dominance.

And every Slayer we see is glad to have power. Even Dana is crystal-clear that she's not weak anymore. I think the point (not Buffy's reasoning in-story, but the narrative message) of it all is that given the choice, all other things equal, it's preposterous that people would choose to be weak. No one would choose to have their defenses ( ... )

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angearia May 26 2011, 01:55:45 UTC
I love your thoughts. I'm still bothered by the consent issue, but I appreciate your viewpoint. It's refreshing.

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pocochina May 26 2011, 03:28:01 UTC
That's fair enough. I suppose on balance I think, they didn't consent to having their power stopped up either. I don't dismiss those misgivings or think people shouldn't have them, I just have a credible reading of the mythology that addresses them, so I go with it.

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