Oh man, secrets time, I LOVE Caprica. Not because the show was good (obvs a mess), but because I thought Zoe and her friend and the creepy teacher and the mom created femslash possibilities galore.
I actually like Cain's crazy!lesbian thing, kind of in the same way I appreciate Glory. I should write about how much I love Glory sometime. But Cain's crazy!lesbian thing totally worked for me as emotional reasoning for the events of Razor. Maybe I see her relationship with Six as the lost lesbian episode of Dollhouse? Yes. Something like that...
I actually did like parts of Caprica as well, though I've only seen about five scattered episodes (I love Sam. LOVE him), but it veered politically into some ugly territory.
It's not even that I would change Cain herself so much as have some happy not!crazy queer characters as well, I think.
Maybe I see her relationship with Six as the lost lesbian episode of Dollhouse?
I was always surprised the show never got around to that, tbh.
This isn’t to say, the antagonist I root for. I loathe everything Cain does, everything she believes, everything she stands for. She’s wrong about everything. But I can tell why and how she’s wrong, I can follow her twisted logic every step of the way, and I can still sympathize with what are clearly the tiny flashes of humanity buried deep in the totalitarianism and manipulation. That’s why she’s a brilliant antagonist.
Absolutely. Cain's damned, but she's damned in a way that we can understand. Her logic is in some way valid, but certainly not sound. She's not insane; she's a fanatic, and that's what makes her terrifyingly real.
for sure, I'd even go a step farther. I actually do think her reasoning is perfectly sound, it's just her fundamental premise - that they're going down and should take as many Cylons out with them as possible - that's fucked. Pretty much everything she does is in perfectly reasonable pursuit of that.
YES!YES!YES! I repeat what I said from your D'Anna post. I love your meta-y posts on characters. :D
And just, your opening paragraph? YES.
And this: Cain herself, along with the Cain-Roslin-Zarek continuum she rounds out, makes for a fascinating exploration of just how fine, bold, and limited is the line between Order and Chaos. YES. - produces a lot of thoughts. :)
I feel like the political philosophy angle of the show kind of slid into the background after New Caprica, but while it was front and center, it was one of the strong points of the show for sure, and it all came from those three.
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no. even though he is certainly my favorite among the children, it's still very unfortunate overall.
Did you try to watch Caprica? I've seen a few episodes and....MESS!
but Cain is definitely the best antagonist the show ever offered because YES SHE IS TERRIFYING.
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I actually like Cain's crazy!lesbian thing, kind of in the same way I appreciate Glory. I should write about how much I love Glory sometime. But Cain's crazy!lesbian thing totally worked for me as emotional reasoning for the events of Razor. Maybe I see her relationship with Six as the lost lesbian episode of Dollhouse? Yes. Something like that...
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It's not even that I would change Cain herself so much as have some happy not!crazy queer characters as well, I think.
Maybe I see her relationship with Six as the lost lesbian episode of Dollhouse?
I was always surprised the show never got around to that, tbh.
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Absolutely. Cain's damned, but she's damned in a way that we can understand. Her logic is in some way valid, but certainly not sound. She's not insane; she's a fanatic, and that's what makes her terrifyingly real.
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And just, your opening paragraph? YES.
And this: Cain herself, along with the Cain-Roslin-Zarek continuum she rounds out, makes for a fascinating exploration of just how fine, bold, and limited is the line between Order and Chaos. YES. - produces a lot of thoughts. :)
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I feel like the political philosophy angle of the show kind of slid into the background after New Caprica, but while it was front and center, it was one of the strong points of the show for sure, and it all came from those three.
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